Si BHA

I don't think we should be able to train PPMs out of players. I'm pretty sure you can discourage a player to play how'd they like to. Lower creative freedom and change their individual instructions.

Lower creative freedom and tell him to cross from the byline.

I'd suggest you fine the player for poor discipline.

I can see where you're coming from with this point and I quite like that idea. Part of me thinks they shouldn't have that PPM in the first place though. Worth thinking about though.

Ched

The spread and values of attributes could be used as modifiers to decide how likely a player is to have certain PPMs. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Exactly right - sorry if i wasn't clear:

I don't want every player with 20 for long shots to prefer hitting them.

Similarly i don't want every player with 2 for long shots to avoid hitting them.

I do however feel that a player with high long shots is more likely to have a PPM relating to this.

Similarly, i can see where Si BHA is coming from with regard to position, however if you look at existing PPMs i really can't think of a CB who has a PPM relating to his finishing - meaning either:

a) the player doesn't finish enough for him to have bothered thinking about it, or

b) there is not enough evidence for a researcher to decide if he has a PPM as he doesn't have enough chances to demonstrate it.

Either way, it shows that PPMs are very much relevant to position.

With regards to the Milan Barros comment: I think that PPMs and their generation should be related to decisions.

E.g. most of the world accept that barros is a moron, hence why after years he still dribbles to nowhere, therefore a player with high decisions is more likely to develop tactics related ppms than a moron who just plays how he wants regardless.

And yes, poor players still should get PPMs - if you read my opening post, i referred to one of the bonuses of PPMs as "provide much more of a man management challenge " for this exact reason, it's an enjoyable challenge having an idiot in your side