wenshoes

wenshoes

Sorry , posted by mistake before i typed

By graphics, I meant the whole interface , doing away witheh current game layout, or at least elements of it and starting from scratch. This includes the way data is presented, menu screens, etc. Its not a case of changing whats there, but changing the whole flow of the game information and adding to it.

I think thats whre SI is going wrong, when we say more graphical they just make changes to their spreadsheet and add a few graphical icons instead of text. Granted the game is laregely text based but there should be more grpahical features in, images, video, computerised animations, that kind of thing to enhance the "feel" of the game.

For example, on match day it would be nice to see what sky sports do with video from the stadiums, key clashes highlighted (with pics of players etc) just completely different to whats there now - not just adding colours to text lol.

The match graphics would be nice, but not at the cost of gameplay. Id be happy with an over head pitch view as is now, but build ups and formations screens could use 3d pitches, as could replays etc , just ideas like that.

deantibbetts

Ah right, cheers.

I don't really know how I feel about ay of it tbh. There are advantages and problems with it i.e. I don't want it to go all gimmicky and look like a big sweety wrapper, but I like the idea. Like I said earlier though (and as you said yourself) fair enough to implement it, but if it affects time spent on gameplay design or affects gameplay in general, it has to be a major no.

retired_cmlafevers

sky sports' coverage of football is massively sensationalist and is designed to keep you watching football and make even ordinary games seem massive.

think of the average length of FM games. adding all that uneccessary fluff would get so TIRESOME after 10-20 in-game years.

and what's wrong with the way FM looks? I don't get the clamouring for graphics. are you that dense and ADD that you need pretty pictures everywhere to tell you what's going on?

FM's GUI is simple, easy to understand, and a very effective way of communicating complex and constantly changing data. that's why it's worked until now and that's why it will CONTINUE to work into the forseeable future.

occam's razor, my friend.

dejasade

someone link to that great thread a few weeks ago which had loads of nice pictures of a tweaked FM

retired_mkaplan

It seems to me here that people are presenting a choice between a good match engine and database etc or a well presented and flashy version of FM.

What the hell is the problem with having both?
People will be getting payed a lot of money to make developments to this game and it really hasn't developed a lot for 3-4 years.

WE NEED BOTH!

retired_cmlafevers

FM is well-presented.

and you don't NEED both. you WANT flashy graphics for some reason. but you don't NEED them.

and to say it hasn't developed a lot in 3-4 years is an absolutely idiotic statement. honestly, what?!

and the reason why you can't have flash and a good match engine is becuase that would require MAMMOTH amounts of processor power and ram to avoid becoming incredibly repetitive.

deantibbetts

That's all just a bit over the top. Plus we don't NEED both, we would like graphical improvements etc but they aren't necessary, we need the gameplay to be brilliant.

retired_GoBlue31

Even if there is no graphical update the presentation could be so much better.

It's like wading through a cumbersome database at the moment rather than a football manager game.

The interface could be much more slick even without any graphics at all.

At work I have to do lots of statistics on our business/department performance. This involves lots and lots of data on excel. When I have to present this to management I obviously don't just hand them a printout of excel. I have to make it into a presentation which looks nice, it looks slick, it looks interesting. At the moment FM is just like the excel part - everything is there but it's just like a database.

retired_andrea5ia

I say: never change a winning team.
Keep the UI the way it is. It's great!