cobra03terminat

I played cm3 and cm00/01. Unaware that the creators of cm had changed to FM I bought both cm2006 and cm2007. On 2007 they had pro-zone. What is the point! I never used it once! It's a load of crap to me!

The only thing better is the matches are in 3D, other than that they're crap!

retired_rotert

Their "3d" is ice skating cluedo pieces and adds nothing at all to the game play.

Like the idea. Seem to remember a couple of skins being available in 01/02. Or that might just have been fonts.

alan.watson59

Where exactly did you get your information? Nothing about the new features in FM2009 have been announced and will not be before August at the earliest. If it hasn't been officially announced on these forums then the news should be regarded as nothing more than speculation. </BLOCKQUOTE>

We know that arrows are going (Just look around fansites, play FML or listen to podcasts). That IS a revamp of tactcics. We also know that the sliders are slightly changing (see above reasons). Tactics go hand-in-hand with training so the training is a suspicion of mine

retired_GoBlue31

I would be nice if they could at least chuck in a handful of skins to choose from.

I personally don't like the standard FM08 skin at all. I know it's personal preference and i'm sure that many people do like it a lot. But it would have been nice to have a selection to choose from rather than me having to go hunt down a custom skin.

With the amount of high quality fan made skins which appear in quite a short time period I wouldn't have though it would be too time consuming ?

retired_katcam1360

I think ultimately it boils down to this:
Do you want a game that 'works' well as a manager simulation?
OR
Do you want a game that looks appealing and flashy but just doesn't back that up with any form of reality or simulation?
Obviously we would all love both but to be honest FM is still far ahead of its rivals.
I do think however that FM really needs to try to get back to having features that immerse the player into the 'FM World'. I feel that as versions have gone on, FM has lost its way with this, an example is the way that they have split the news items which has really been a negative change for me.

wenshoes

We all appreciate the hard work and ‘core’ of FM that’s why we are here and none of us want that to change. All that we are asking is for FM to start building on it. The most interesting point made was the guy (sorry can’t remember who said it) who said that FM feel’s soul-less. That hit the nail on the head, you feel anonymous playing the game and there is no real link with the events going on around you. This is down to the poor media interface which is just irritating and repetitive , and also the lack of graphical or attractive layouts, transitions screens, atmospheric setting etc.

On the FIFA 09 demo video I seen a prematch build up video, sweeping through a real stadium, giving details of two key match men - looked amazing. I suggest SI start to watch more and more Sky sports build ups to matches, read more of the trashy redtops – get idea for how the media works. I can get excited even for a particularly dull match like Sunderland and Fulham just watching sky sports build up to a game! Come on, sort it out SI!

The most logical step forward at this point is to focus on this for new releases. There are other ‘little’ things that need implementing at the core of the game too, but the game is already pretty sweet and better than the rest so why not work on FM’s weakest points and bring them up to scratch?

wenshoes

Yes obviously we all want the nice game that works well, but FM ALREADY works pretty well, why not just build on that now?

Why can't we have both indepth game play AND a nice graphical interface with some atmosphere to the game?

it's not just flashy graphics, the whole atmosphere of the game - and although it's important to have a solid foundation of a working engine of a game, it's equally important to feel the build up to games, feel like all eyes ar on you, that those league games you rush through actually DO matter and there are 40k+ eyes on you every week!

retired_lidaltd

That white skin is no success IMO, bring back the green or something. Somethign easier to look at.

wenshoes

It's not just a case of skins mate, the skins are fine, they do the best they can with what is available. The only criticisms with skins in there should be more of them out of the box.

I think the original poster is on about the game interface as a whole, and I'd agree.

deantibbetts

TBH i'm still slightly unsure as to what everyone means by graphics in this thread.

Is it the match representation?
The skin?
The pictures?

Skin and pictures are easily sorted with downloads, whereas match representation is a can of worms. What is this thread actually talking about when it says "graphics"?