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The issue with regens is something that has always bothered me about these games. The serious lack of not just top class but also good/average players amazes me for a game like this. If it was me making this game I would totally over exagerate the quality of regens rather than have 90% of them totally useless, so more and more people buy my game!
Im currently seven seasons into a game and it occured to me the other day while looking at the 'player search' screen, with no filters on, that not one regen made it anywhere near the first page of players(sorted by value). So in other words all the top players in 2015 are the same as in 2007!!!
Think back seven versions of this game. That would be CM00/01 or CM01/02 yeah? How many players from the 'player screen' would still be there now?!? And the likes of C Ronaldo, Kaka, Messi, Fabregas, Kompany, Garay, Veloso, Benzema, Robinho, Ben Arfa, Mascherano, Tevez, Silva etc wern't even in the database, so you could say are regens since then!!
I find it interesting to think that way!
SI how will you get around this problem? Why can't more world class/top class/good/average players be generated each season?
I understand, but i disagree.
The was your putting it, it makes it sound like you get like 10 world class players each time.
Its only once every 4-5 years that a player like Ronaldo comes along.
Just be patient.
Originally posted by jack.browne:
I understand, but i disagree.
The was your putting it, it makes it sound like you get like 10 world class players each time.
Its only once every 4-5 years that a player like Ronaldo comes along.
Just be patient.
I didn't say they all came through in the same season, but the facts speak for themselves. Take any 7-10 year period and I guarantee you hundereds of top/good players come into the game from all around the world, but so far in my FM game hardly any are playing international football.
Take the England team for example. How much does that change over a 7 year period irl?? In FM no one new has come into the team after 7 years of my game. Same for all National teams
I'm a bit undecided on this one. I also understand where you're coming from, but at the same time in real life traiing has a huge influence in how successful a player is. Take Fabregas for example, couldn't get a contract in spain, took a gamble to see if he could make it by moving to london when a lot of others would have given up to become a plummer, and now he is wanted by madrid and barca!
Personally I seem to get a load of trash every year with regens but with the right traiing, a lot of them can become decent enough for mid-table sides.
And I have signed some good regens from other teams, mostly in the lower leagues which have been awesome. The only example i can think of was a guy from watford who i signed for £15mil. Worth every penny and became my captain, but as he was at watford his value was only about £2mil.
Just because they don't have massive values doesn't mean they're not out there, just they havn't been discovered yet.
Originally posted by Nomis07:
I disagree, because i'm in 2017 and there are a hell of a lot of regens in my player search and they are of a very good quality.
Im afraid I dont believe you! Please post a screen shot of your player search screen with no filters and sorted by value?
The seven seasons I spoke about speak volumes imo! If I want to find a few good average squad players, I have to sign 28,29,30 year old real players because the game does not generate them.
Every European club I have checked has an average age of 27! Every single one!! Not one of the top European nation has a player under 22 in there squad!!!
Originally posted by nojabold:
I'm a bit undecided on this one. I also understand where you're coming from, but at the same time in real life traiing has a huge influence in how successful a player is. Take Fabregas for example, couldn't get a contract in spain, took a gamble to see if he could make it by moving to london when a lot of others would have given up to become a plummer, and now he is wanted by madrid and barca!
Personally I seem to get a load of trash every year with regens but with the right traiing, a lot of them can become decent enough for mid-table sides.
And I have signed some good regens from other teams, mostly in the lower leagues which have been awesome. The only example i can think of was a guy from watford who i signed for £15mil. Worth every penny and became my captain, but as he was at watford his value was only about £2mil.
Just because they don't have massive values doesn't mean they're not out there, just they havn't been discovered yet.
Of course training plays a major part irl, but no reason training in FM can be just as effective!
Just for the record, Fabregas left Barca'a youth academy for Arsenal even though they were desperate to keep him!! Same as Pique!
Your right about the rubbish coming through each season. Take Man Utd for example, look at there youth team when you start a new game and then look at 99% of the regens that come through, no where near good enough, never get any better
In my Barca team in 2013, my left and right back, and my two central midfielders are quality, thier regens and 17-21
I brought them for 2-7m, now thier worth 8-25m, maybe you just need to scout better, also the database effects the amount of regens also, and thus the % of good regens emerging.
maybe Barcelona did want to keep fabregas, the point I was making is that had he stayed there he probably wouldn't have reached his potential, and certainly not as quickly as he has at Arsenal. Fabregas himself said that he was unsure about moving to Arsenal so young, but he is glad he did now because so many of the players he played with are still struggling and he would probably only be with the third team by now, not playing champs league and international football.
Originally posted by nojabold:
maybe Barcelona did want to keep fabregas, the point I was making is that had he stayed there he probably wouldn't have reached his potential, and certainly not as quickly as he has at Arsenal. Fabregas himself said that he was unsure about moving to Arsenal so young, but he is glad he did now because so many of the players he played with are still struggling and he would probably only be with the third team by now, not playing champs league and international football.
Well we'l never know that now, but I do remember someone from the FA saying 'Fabregas will write football history' and he was only 16 then, but anyway lets please not turn this into a Fabregas debate!!
Another point is why are there so many regens from Caribeen islands like 'The Cook Islands' etc.... Its bizarre!! How when SI were coding the game could they allow this to happen instead of good regens from Europe and Africa, as irl!?
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