retired_mary43

For me, Brazil is one of the worst places as I need to get them ideally when they are 15-16, and at 17 it's often too late. You need to get them playing lots of games quickly.

If there is a big of good news, it's that I only encounter high CA youngsters that have a pitiful PA (something like at 16, they are 100/130), so good CA breeds good PA. I always say that if you have the attributes in the correct places, it is possible to have Premiership-standard players with CAs of 160 - see Fletcher, whom my scouts actually rate as good as Anderson (4 stars).

retired_babygirl_51119

I have never in the last 6 seasons found a regen with anything like the potential you list above. If a regen arrives at Chelsea with a PA of 130 - Steve Clarke gets all excited and selects him as a future star!!!

I will obviously have to spend more time looking in different countries, because if they really do exist then I wants to buy a few!

retired_jahangir

The problem isn't the quality of Regens, rather the games valuation of players. If you wanted mind could you get a program like mini-scout or whatever, search for regens (don't know if its possible on mini scout but was on FM scout last year) with a CA of over 150, I reckon you'd be surprised how many turn up.

retired_thebug816

Ironically at my team in iceland, my facilities are now fully rated and can't be improved any further, and in the first season the regens that come through after seeing two with 5* and one with 7* potential, dug out the editor, checked their PA's and two have over 150, and the other is over 180 - just in the first year of having full facilities.

The general trend for all players coming through now though is greater than the league, which is good because it'll improve the league standard in a few years time.

retired_cmlafevers

I'm sorry, this is just ridiculous.

fabregas played in the same youth team as messi and pique. and a whole load of other average players. yes the vast majority of the class of '87 are floundering now, and here's why... they're not that good. they're the '130PA' guys. etc. whereas messi, pique and fabregas were the '190PA' guys in that amazing group.

as for getting more chances/reaching his potential at arsenal, that's absolutely ridiculous. barcelona is THE premier place for talent-production outside of brazil (as a whole country). no club can compete with the brilliance they consistently produce. and bring through. the name lionel messi sound familiar? victor valdes? carles puyol? oleguer? xavi? andres iniesta? bojan? or, hell, how about pepe reina? or mikel arteta? luis garcia? ringing any bells? sergio garcia? hellooo? francesc fabregas? fran merida? anyone in there??

if fabregas was good enough (which he was. with messi and pique he was the standout from that team) he'd have made it into the first team like others before him. but first-team football is not why he (or pique) left barcelona. they left for one reason and one reason only.

MONEY.

sorry to go off-topic there but it really grinds my gears [/petergriffin] when people misrepresent the fabregas/arsenal/barca deal.

for my 2p worth, regens suck at physical stats and their technical and mental stats are sparsely populated but spectacular. you rarely get balanced regens. and yes, no wonderkids.

retired_lbils

And you call that realistic? No 22 year old is going to be the best CB in the world, full stop. In FM07 the regens were far far too good. There has possibly been a slight trend the other way this game, but it's ridiculous that everyone expects a star to come through their youth team every year. It just doesn't happen.

retired_boppa

You can bet on that.

In Portugal we would say, "nem 8 nem 80", "neither 8 nor 80": SI seemingly got from near one extreme to the other in a single year.

retired_lbils

well, let's hope we get a happy medium this time round. If somebody could do a proper holiday test over several games with lots of leagues selected, using scout to look at the % scores, that would be great - it would be useful to see how severe the problem is.

I've uninstalled 08 for other reasons, and don't plan on reinstalling it as of now, but if no-one else wants to do it, I suppose I might consider it...

retired_kimm

In FM07 I was quite happy with regens as I got some really top players, when at Rangers got a great young goalie that was eventually snapped up by man utd for 10mil and was first choice keeper.


With 08 I havnt really played it long enough as I was playing 07 up till the 8.0.2 patch and a player picture mod came out.
Currently I have some good regen players but I dont seem them being world class.

retired_aliloowho

I have never in the last 6 seasons found a regen with anything like the potential you list above. If a regen arrives at Chelsea with a PA of 130 - Steve Clarke gets all excited and selects him as a future star!!!

I will obviously have to spend more time looking in different countries, because if they really do exist then I wants to buy a few! </BLOCKQUOTE>


quick update on them,

Beevor - now 18 - CA 140 - PA 196

Martin - Now 18 - CA 115 - PA 182

Mazzone - 18 - CA 131 - PA 189

Martin has slowed down compared to the other two as i sent him on, loan, and dispite playing well he didnt improve, then once he come back his training hasnt really picked up unlike the other two

i also seen a striker on mini scout who i am thinking of buying dispite it being cheating, his PA is 198 and CA is 95 at the age of 15