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I agree there isn't an abundance of world class regens, but it only took me till 2013 for a regen to win World Player Of The Year, he wonit again in 2017, coming second in 2016.
I think since we won it there's been a regen placed every season bar one. I've just finsihed season 17/18 so I'll ley you know if one places this year
Originally posted by backpackant:
Firstly, SI have stated several times that Regens are under review. So they've admitted it's a problem and are sorting it.
As for lack of quality 6-7 seasons in, their value may be poor but there's plenty of quality out there. I have these guys:
Of these, Foda is a first team rotation player, and Ullman is coming along nicely in cup matches and as a sub. Amouya has a lot of competition, and Tecklenburg doesn't seem to have the mental attributes for a leading prem star, but clearly has the technical skill.
For me, the physical stats are the biggest problem at this stage. And a lot of the mental ability develops over time, but not well enough.
I'm sure this has been taken into account and will be improved for future versions. Well, I HOPE.
And from what others have posted, it gets much, much worse 20-30 seasons in.
I wish I had Amouya in my Ivory Coast squad... We are leaking stupid goals...
not having read all the threads here so someone may have already mentioned it.
but i remember reading something on here where youth players were starting with quite low stat values.
which meant they couldn't improve enough in time to make themselves wonderkids.
it also meant that by the time they wre 24 (which is when speed of improvement starts to go down) they wont have got any where near how good they could be.
Originally posted by Klimowicz:
has anyone ever started a game made up entirely of regens? it really doesn't work. players with abysmal stats and 1* in the assman report are nearly always priced £10M+, players with acceptable stats are also give 1-2*, but valued much lower, less than £100K sometimes.
i tried to start one with barcelona, most of the team was terrible. i checked madrid, athletico, espanyol, valencia etc, and it was near enough the same for them. because regens rarely get ppms unless they are real life players with different names, match quality is evidently poorer with regens.
i think this shows how random & below average the regen quality is.
Great point.
Indeed, if the only problem is the low starting CA of regens why then starting a game with all imaginery players gives you Barcelona with bad players, even the 27-year olds not just the young ones?
im in like 2018 or something and all the good players are the real ones which are all roughly 30. there are a couple of sub-standard regens who would make a lower league premiership team.
to me thats not good enough. the way i see it modern football is only getting better, so why do the talents get very quickly, worse.
I agree with this aswell. The quality of regens is really poor and you hardly get any "world class" regens.
What i have done is found that you get quite a few Regens every year that start at the age of 20 and have a CA over 100, normally between 100-110. So what I do is load up FMM and decrease there age to 17. Giving them an extra 3 years to develop without making the game unrealistic because it still ties up with there history stats. The only difference is they entered the game at 17 instead of 20. Then if trained right by their current clubs they can become a wonderkid by the time they are 20. I have also done this for 19 year old being entered into the game as regens. I decrease there age by 2 years to 17.
by 2021 with west ham i have not had one single player come up through the ranks who is good enough to make the grade.
this is west ham the so called "academy" of football which has produced about 1/3 of the players in the champions league final this season.
I am getting some good regens (by buying them), but only a couple that i would consider truly world class and on a par with the players that exist at the beginning of the game.
At them moment I have resorted to scouting every single player u17 and signing every one with a 3* rating or higher.
particular problem areas are defence. it is very rare for defenders to have a good balance of attributes - there is no one remotely comparable to micah richards or rio, i.e quick & good in the air. Alot of the players with jumping and heading 18 or higher have pace below ten.
i just checked and there is only one defender on the game with acc, pace, jumping and heading of 15 - this is appalling!
if i change the search to acc & pace =12, and jumping & acceleration = 18 then there is only 3 players in the world! again this is truly appalling.
if i drop this to 11 and 17 respectively there are only 9 - there woud have been loads on the starting database.
half of these are not regens, and then alot of the regens have pointless attributes for a defender like amazing corner taking using up their PA and thus meaning they never amount to anything.
Its a similar story with big strikers, and with attacking midfielders there are very few that match speed with skill, it is usually strictly one or the other. e.g real madrid have a young amc operating in their team with pace and acceleration7!!
essentially si have struggled to ensure there are enough good players with decent physicals. and they still struggle to match attribute to position. e.g For regen defenders, decent corner taking should be severely restricted - it just wastes players. it may happen in real life that a defender also takes the corners but i imagine fairly rarely - so why not cap 99% of regen dc's starting corner attribute at say 2 or 3?
similarly we dont want the vast majority of forwards to be amazing at tackling or marking.
i am sure everyone has noticed that no one can take penalties as well? ideally this should be somewhat tied to something like technique or finishing to ensure that at least a few strikers can take penalties. how about making it so 25% or regen strikers start with penalty taking at 8? it would mean they at least end up good at something.
p.s i am the worlds biggest club and have the best possible training facilities.
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