Doruk

Actually the fake Japanese team names currently in the game is very easily fixable like a like a click and a drag away, but we can't talk about such things in detail in these forums. So if that is that easy than the fake names situation would be just as easyt to fix. Again it's a matter of what the details are to Konami's rights to the J-League.

Also people need to understand already that Sega is a Japanese company where as eidos is an English one this means that Konami can't sue Eidos, but can do real damage to Sega. That's why the last CM with SI involved in it had the J-League and as soon as it was chnaged to FM with Sega the J-League was dropped this is also why CM still has the J-League however crappily done it may be. Now as others have pointed out if it where that easy SI would have done it already. All of this has been discussed extensively numerous times, but people still don;t seem to get it.

If SI are allowed to use the format of the league than I wouldn't mind having a fake league which wouldn't be as difficult to fix as some moght think

Barside

Of course Konami can take legal action against Eidos if they infringed their intellectual property rights, just because they are from a different country doesn't matter, they would just file proceedings in the country that Eidos are based in.

Doruk

Of course Konami can take legal action against Eidos if they infringed their intellectual property rights, just because they are from a different country doesn't matter, they would just file proceedings in the country that Eidos are based in. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Than why don't they? How are eidos able to include the J-Leagues in their game even though they have no rights to the J-League license and SI stopped including the J-League once they switched over to Sega?

Hershie

Of course Konami can take legal action against Eidos if they infringed their intellectual property rights, just because they are from a different country doesn't matter, they would just file proceedings in the country that Eidos are based in. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Than why don't they? How are eidos able to include the J-Leagues in their game even though they have no rights to the J-League license and SI stopped including the J-League once they switched over to Sega? </BLOCKQUOTE>
As far as I understand it, Konami hold the rights to the league structure, logos, kits etc; but not the player data itself is held under image rights, rather than official licencing. Having the data there and displaying it with false names is something that Konami really wouldn't care about, because you can't play in the J-League, and so SI are not actively using/including any of the league and/or competiting with Konami.

I may be wrong.

Hershie

Of course Konami can take legal action against Eidos if they infringed their intellectual property rights, just because they are from a different country doesn't matter, they would just file proceedings in the country that Eidos are based in. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Than why don't they? How are eidos able to include the J-Leagues in their game even though they have no rights to the J-League license and SI stopped including the J-League once they switched over to Sega? </BLOCKQUOTE>
As far as I understand it, Konami hold the rights to the league structure, logos, kits etc; but not the player data itself, which is held under image rights, rather than official licencing. Having the data there and displaying it with false names is something that Konami really wouldn't care about, because you can't play in the J-League, and so SI are not actively using/including any of the league and/or competiting with Konami.

I may be wrong. </BLOCKQUOTE>
Fixed.

In addition, of course Konami could sue Eidos/SI for a breach of licence; works the same way as any universal licence I believe (copyright etc).

Reggae Boyz

Konami manages to implement fake player and club names in Pro Evo 2008, therefore I don't see how it would be a problem to create a fake J-League.

Hershie

Would get rid of the 'as-real-as-possible' aspect of the game; would just be a standard league, with fake players. Why not just play the Premiership with fake players?

Reggae Boyz

My point is that the J-League should be able to be included with realistic data. The names are the only thing that would need to be changed by using an LNC file similar to the Oliver Kahn file. This can easily be removed or edited.

Hershie

That's the thing; Konami can use fake names and real structure because the leagues other than Japan are not exclusivly held by one party. SI however cannot use the Japanese league structure, as Konami hold the exclusive rights. I think.

Reggae Boyz

Ok, that explains it.