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Old 04-23-2008, 07:11 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #1
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Personally i feel FM to have just about every feature you could possibly want in a football management sim. However, i find there is still something lacking.

I beleive FM would greatly benefit from a design overhaul - less text, more graphics.

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Overview
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Before i start on the following topic i must insist on telling you that i really dislike Fifa Manager 08.
However the difference, i feel, between FM and Fifa Manager is:

DATABASE: Football Manager > Fifa Manager (90%-10%)
GRAPHICS: Fifa Manager > Football Manager (65%-35%)

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I also beleive FM could benefit from:

Shortlist: Stopping everyone on your shortlist being linked with you every week. It's so annoying.

Pitch/Weather: Have different pitch styles and weather effects. eg. Snow lying on the pitch and playing with a yellow ball.

Friendlies: When selecting a team to play a friendly against either a)Only show the teams that are available to play on the date you have selected OR b)Select a team to play and show the dates they are available on.

World Cup Tree: For knockout stages show the progress in a tree based display. Something more exciting than displaying the same as league fixtures.

Manager Stats: Have more information entered at the start for your personal profile. I support Celtic and Liverpool. Favourite Players etc.

Photography: Using background pictures to good effect. Changes look/feel to certain screens. ie. Boardroom picture when you are asking for a board request.

Chairman: Stop a chairman from a wealthy club selling your top players over your head when you have enough money in the bank.
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Old 04-23-2008, 07:19 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #3
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If you like all the "fluff" Fifa manager have, try download another skin . It takes 5 min to get and install..
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I've played in snow with a yellow ball before on FM08.
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Stan, Are your changes available in a skin? Cos ur pics look ace, and it would make it look a lot better.

I think SI could improve their final product just by hiring a graphic designer to smarten the programme up. It wouldnt be detrimental to the game in any way, and the series could go stale without a refresh sometime soon - there hasnt really been a major overhaul since CM4 has there?
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You've obviously spent a lot of time on this, and they do look good, but IMO changed graphics/skins have very limited impact beyond first impressions. Still, each to their own.

The shortlist thing is well-known and hopefully SI have fixed it for FM09. The way round at the moment is to save your shortlist under one name and take everyone off the list. You can import it back when you want to look at the players.

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Pitch/Weather: Have different pitch styles and weather effects. eg. Snow lying on the pitch and playing with a yellow ball.
This already happens.

With friendlies, yes this would save time.

I thought they already had a "tree". Don't you just select a particular view?

The photography, I think is similar to the graphics. Nice touch, but there's more important things for SI to work on.

Chairman thing is also well-known, with about 3 posts per day. Again, hopefully SI have fixed this. Current work-arounds are 1) offer the player a new, very high contract, or 2) offer the player to £0 to a load of clubs. If he chooses to go to one of the others, you can cancel the deal at the last minute.

Hope this helps.
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I think SI could improve their final product just by hiring a graphic designer to smarten the programme up. It wouldnt be detrimental to the game in any way, and the series could go stale without a refresh sometime soon
They do have graphic designers, otherwise there would be no graphics. As for not being detrimental, if there are too many graphics, it slows the game down - moreso on <2GB machines, but still. And the only thing that will make the game go stale is if they don't fix the obvious flaws in the game. Graphics are a major second in terms of importance when it comes to FM.
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Old 04-23-2008, 07:36 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #8
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I think the picture you ahve eidted look great. I would be happy to play with them.
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Yeah, I know that they must have designers, but I meant someone from outside the industry who could look at the overall picture and make it better.

If all they were to do is to fix any flaws, eventually people would just stick with one version and keep updating it themselves instead of buying each new game. I know that I regret buying PES 2008, and that series has gone somewhat stale. Some new feature like individual personalities would really revamp it, and you could have it as an optional feature so people with low end PCs could tuen it off
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Wow great work on those pics most people don't put anything more than the time it takes to type their whinging posts. While the attributes average thing at the top of the bar sounds like a good idea, the rest of that stuff seems to pertain to skins more than anything.
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