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Old 04-27-2008, 12:47 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #81
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Shortlist: Stopping everyone on your shortlist being linked with you every week. It's so annoying.

Pitch/Weather: Have different pitch styles and weather effects. eg. Snow lying on the pitch and playing with a yellow ball.

I'v had plenty of games on a snowy pitch with a retro Orange ball. Far better than a yellow ball.

Friendlies: When selecting a team to play a friendly against either a)Only show the teams that are available to play on the date you have selected OR b)Select a team to play and show the dates they are available on.

A neat suggestion cause its quite annoying organising friendlies and then the team isnt available or refuses. Then again, this is why I have my assistant do it.

World Cup Tree: For knockout stages show the progress in a tree based display. Something more exciting than displaying the same as league fixtures.

You can do this already I believe?

Manager Stats: Have more information entered at the start for your personal profile. I support Celtic and Liverpool. Favourite Players etc.

Isnt this already in? Apart from the favourite players bit?

Photography: Using background pictures to good effect. Changes look/feel to certain screens. ie. Boardroom picture when you are asking for a board request.

Nice request.

Chairman: Stop a chairman from a wealthy club selling your top players over your head when you have enough money in the bank.
Why? It happens in real life.


I was expecting something far better from your screenshots I have to say. But there are some nice ideas in there, such as the number next to the player. But I absolutely dislike the 'web' way of visualising the stats. It's absolute woeful and is only on consoles because you may not be able to read all the text on a TV. If a FM game ever solely went with that then I plainly wouldnt buy it. Absolutely awful way of visalising this.

One thing that has disappointed me with FM2008 has been the lack of decent skins. Is this because a lot of people are happy with the original skin? Or maybe people aint all that bothered. Have to say that I always go back to the excellent default skin.
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:54 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #82
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again, is there any chance we can dwnload this skin, it looks great
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Old 04-27-2008, 03:45 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #83
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yes good idea,

to appease people over the graphics thing then, there could be a plain style skin for slower computers and a skin which has a bit more to it
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Old 04-27-2008, 04:12 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #84
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Brilliant mock ups StanPetrov, agree with you on many points, You should really try and make a skin based on those mock ups
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Old 04-27-2008, 06:55 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #85
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StanPetrov

ignore those naysayers

those who love to read thru ugly stats instead of great eye-pleasing details of game are just being too conservative


I always thought FM was not user-friendly due to the myriad of details in which you cannot tell which is more important than the other. Add to it that this would just make the game less tedious and more enjoyable

Props, SI should hire you!
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Old 04-27-2008, 06:57 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #86
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These mock-ups are awesome.
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Old 04-27-2008, 08:12 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #87
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First of all, I really like this topic, especially the first post. You have done a lot of work and some improvements you suggested look awesome. I would like being able to right click on a player in the tactics screen to give him some individual instructions. Big thumbs up for that one.

Besides that, I really could not believe my eyes when I read posts saying: "Why should SI improve their graphics? That's not what FM is about."

Those people do not understand the concept of design, especially the design of a game like this. When having to read a lot of information (like you do in FM) it is of the up most importance that you can find the required information as soon and easy as possible. Little differences in letter type have a major impact on your ability to separate unimportant information from important information. Important information should be big and bold (like your team stats in the league table should be bold as stan pointed out) and unimportant information should be small. In FM, a lot of text and/or information has the exact same font and that is very tiring to your eyes and takes up a lot of unnecessary time.

As for including more pictures and graphics, I agree with this point up to a certain degree. Yes, having some information in a graphical way instead of just text gives our eyes a little rest once in a while and makes us more relaxed. Having to read text all the time actually creates stress. Be aware that this is only useful when graphics can actually replace text in an accurate way. This is clearly NOT the case with that idiotic graphical display of players attributes. I do not find that useful at all and I probably never will.

As for adding background pictures: I agree.
At this point I really feel the game lacks what I'd like to call graphical atmosphere. A Champions-League game looks just the same as a match in Holland's first division. I find that ridiculous.

I have a great digital imaging teacher at my school and I am sure he could give you some awesome advice haha. That man is a design-maniac. He designs business-cards and company logos in a matter of seconds.
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Old 04-27-2008, 08:26 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #88
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would like to say fantastic ideas and your quite right by saying when you finish your matches at the weekend i wouldnt say it makes you look forward to the screens but to an extent it makes you take notice and your are interested in seeing how other teams' players have performed if you have them next if that makes sense.

I also believe that if screens like this were implemented then football manager would be a brighter game and more detailed, i paticularly liked the tabs in the tactics screen to show all of the players or just def, mids or attackers nstead of going back to the filter.

Its also a nice change to see people actually spending time on ideas as another poster said than saying i would like to see different things.

finally so you dont have to read my waffle, just like to end by saying that you also have laid the graphics out very well and they look nice and in the right position and if SI can enhance these with your help too it would be great.

Thanks for reading
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Old 04-27-2008, 01:49 PM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #89
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Great ideas there.

Just one thing that wouldn't work is the player pics for highest goalscorer, assist, and rating. Not every player has a picture and some of the downloadable pictures take up more space than the default ones.
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Old 04-27-2008, 06:44 PM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #90
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Originally posted by megafan2005:
some really good ideas but i think this should be included to
I had so many other ideas i never got round to do any of the other screens megafan.

I've tried to emulate what you've just suggested on the same screens as before.
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