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Old 04-24-2008, 04:21 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #61
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I'm very pleased Ter saw these. Stan, I think the work you put into the graphical mock-ups was superb, superbly presented for starters, and the feedback to posts on the subject from Ter was spot-on. :thup:

My thoughts on Stan's ideas: I really, really like it. I don't agree that FM has nothing to do with graphics - and clearly those at SI have put the effort into the user interface. I'll hold my hands up and say that I hated the default FM08 skin at first, but I really, really like it now, and I can really see the hard work that obviously went into the design.

Stan, just one pointer: in some of your screenshots, you showed just the player's head in a box for the stats. Obviously, you'd need to incorporate their name into the mix as well for those players that don't have a facepack associated with them.

I really liked the Sky Sports style tactics screen, and the right-click suggestion.

I have to say, yours is the best thread in here for a looooong time. :thup:
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Old 04-24-2008, 04:22 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #62
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They are excellent must have taken ages!!

As many people have mentioned above, I think there are more important things to fix in FM first, but I reckon that sort of improvement graphic-wise would be brilliant.

Not on the scale of FIFA Manager - to me that is over the top graphics wise but a few pictures and changes in terms of what club you are etc would be very good.

Even something like when you look at the league table, the background colours are decked out in the colours of the holders
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Old 04-24-2008, 05:49 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #63
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Originally posted by Ter:

<BLOCKQUOTE>Which at least makes it better than the FM08 default skin that absolutely nobody likes
The FM 2008 default skin has been a big success actually :o </BLOCKQUOTE>

I love the Default Skin.! I've tried out almost every skin, and after a few seasons gone back to the default.!

However, I love a lot proposed here by the OP, and adding the certain graphics would definitely make the game more enjoyable.

It's Your Graphics > It's Your Tactics any day
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Old 04-24-2008, 06:26 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #64
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I love them all :thup:
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Old 04-24-2008, 07:13 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #65
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I think this is a great idea and fully support it.

Kudos for taking the time to present it well too :thup:
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Old 04-24-2008, 09:03 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #66
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Speechless. I'm absolutely speechless.

Those pics you made are fantastic. I know others may feel different, but if a game isn't aesthetically pleasing, I won't play it.

I also love the idea of more graphics because less text = less reading! :p

Absolutely brilliant! :thup:
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Old 04-24-2008, 04:37 PM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #67
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Think the ideas are generally good.

One small point though:

You write on the Overview screen something along the lines of "use more pictures for leading stats etc." This though would only work when the players are "real players". As soon as we are onto newgens, no-one will have a clue who they are, so text is necessary.

This of course applies to all aspects where you have replaced text with photos.
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This though would only work when the players are "real players". As soon as we are onto newgens, no-one will have a clue who they are, so text is necessary.
Good point. It makes long-term gaming problematic. But KUDOS to the OP for some awesome images.
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Old 04-24-2008, 05:46 PM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #69
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i cant fathom why people dislike fm having a bit of style to it. I mean its an awesome guy but visually its so dull. Compare it to fifam 08, fifa manager is actually getting a bit better and it looks great, and even playing it over and over again it doesnt get as monotonous as fm jst because of these little graphic designs that dont "add" anything to the game. I dont see why it shouldnt be added, it doesnt take away anything from the game and if anything it adds to the experience and actually increases the longevity of the game.

Wow, thats a long post for me.
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I’d also like more stats post match that can be used for tactical feedback.

Presumably many events are modelled into the match calculation that don’t make it into the match stats screen.

Also, real world reviews of games might include: what sectors of the pitch did successful attacking moves start? Where were tackles won (rather than merely how many and by whom)? Successful passes – how many short/long etc? What led to attempts at goal: set piece, misplaced opposition pass, tackle won in last third of the pitch and so on. Effectiveness of opposition players: percentage of times the full back was beaten etc.

That sort of thing.
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