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Old 04-23-2008, 09:03 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #11
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If you like all the "fluff" Fifa manager have, try download another skin . It takes 5 min to get and install..
i agree. no fluff. the game should be monochrome. im all for regress!!!
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Old 04-23-2008, 09:12 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #12
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Hmmm...

It's a bit of a marmite topic really. Some people will want it, others won't.

As previously said, some things can already be altered by using different skins (eg background pics).

Some things may benefit from a few more graphics but I think the placers faces on the graphics screen is a bit too much. Have you seen the Wii version of Pro Evo. I wouldn't want it ending up like that! And plus, many players will play through until all the current players have retired and, with some people not even liking facegen full stop, many wouldn't want it.

Good to see someone doing something more than just saying 'I want to see this' etc
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Old 04-23-2008, 09:14 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #13
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Personally i feel FM to have just about every feature you could possibly want in a football management sim. However, i find there is still something lacking.

I beleive FM would greatly benefit from a design overhaul - less text, more graphics.

I actually quite like most of those mock-ups, I'm all for a bit of change, the curent game is just about at the pinnacle of stats/gameplay theres not much furhter they can push this. Aside from new features, a new 'look' could breathe new life into an already top-notch game :thup:
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Old 04-23-2008, 09:24 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #14
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Nice touch, but there's more important things for SI to work on.
I disagree with this concept on a number of levels. For one, the changes outlined would be mostly performed by a graphics expert, rather than the programming team who would work on most of what you want changed.

Secondly, people should stop making out that graphics development is a zero-sum game, interfering with coding. SI is owned by Sega. Admittedly, Sega is currently a loss-making outfit, but 2007's revenue was around £2.6bn. There is space for an extra staff member or two without firing anyone. Furthermore, Sega employs around eleven thousand people worldwide. You're telling me there aren't a few graphics designers in that who could be lent to SI for the short time it would take to radically improve FM's look?

Thirdly, I think it's wrong to bring up FIFA in this discussion. When people think of FIFA, they mostly remember the shoddy gameplay. No-one is advocating borrowing from FIFA's gameplay dynamics. Looking outward for user interface improvements does not dilute the FM core.
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Old 04-23-2008, 09:26 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #15
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Most of these I like a lot but there is one thing I do not want at all:

Pop-up windows!

The few times I've played Fifa manager they bugged the hell out of me! I have back and forward buttons on my mouse, that's what I want to use! Or the arrow keys, anything besides pop-ups
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Old 04-23-2008, 09:31 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #16
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Great stuff, Stan. Some really cool suggestions there.


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I also beleive FM could benefit from:

Shortlist: Stopping everyone on your shortlist being linked with you every week. It's so annoying.
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And - stopping the media question about one of your former players, that appears each time your team faces his "new" (lol) team. That really gets on my nerves. It should stop after the first time. But it just continues, season after season.
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:09 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #17
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i would personally love to see all these things in the game next year but it wont happen
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Great job Stan!

Would love to see some of your suggestions implemented.
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:43 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #19
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Great work on those mockups, they look great.

All your additions are pretty simple but they do a massive amount for the GUI. Id be delighted if FM09 looked like that. Somehow, I think it will be pretty much the same boring look that we have gotton used to.

StanPetrov, I wonder, do you know how to code and make the skins? You could do alot of this with a skin, well I'm guessing on that. I know nothing about making skins.

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Old 04-23-2008, 10:54 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #20
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Stan, great graphics! Hope this gets into FM2009 (hope it's not too late) or FM2010.
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