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Old 04-27-2008, 06:46 PM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #91
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I'll try that one again...
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Old 04-27-2008, 07:01 PM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #92
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Originally posted by !Steve1977:
I was expecting something far better from your screenshots I have to say. But there are some nice ideas in there, such as the number next to the player. But I absolutely dislike the 'web' way of visualising the stats. It's absolute woeful and is only on consoles because you may not be able to read all the text on a TV. If a FM game ever solely went with that then I plainly wouldnt buy it. Absolutely awful way of visalising this.
Couldn't disagree more with just about everything in your completely unconstructive post. That said, I guess all your voicing is an opinion and if improving the graphical interface means you no longer play the game, so be it.

The way the visuals are now is so dull. Stan's ideas are along the right lines to improve things. I love the idea of seeing stats all the time in different places, it's much more likely to enable you to totally emerse yourself in the game. Loads of times a player will score past me and unless I choose to click on him, I have no idea how well he's doing in the season. To have a pop-up tell me his stats is a nice idea.

As with everything, I'd have it optional though - after all, SI made the match experience optional, so I don't see why this sort of thing wouldn't be optional.

But this is definitely the way forward - Stan's clearly put a lot of work into those screenshots, so before you say that you were expecting something "far better", why don't you put some effort in and show us your ideas?

Cheers. :thup:
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Old 04-27-2008, 07:30 PM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #93
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Why? It happens in real life.


I was expecting something far better from your screenshots I have to say. But there are some nice ideas in there, such as the number next to the player. But I absolutely dislike the 'web' way of visualising the stats. It's absolute woeful and is only on consoles because you may not be able to read all the text on a TV. If a FM game ever solely went with that then I plainly wouldnt buy it. Absolutely awful way of visalising this.

One thing that has disappointed me with FM2008 has been the lack of decent skins. Is this because a lot of people are happy with the original skin? Or maybe people aint all that bothered. Have to say that I always go back to the excellent default skin.
I realise that it happens in real life, but not to the extent that it happens in FM. You could be playing as Everton in 2013 with £200m in the bank. Having bought Modric for £15m your board could sell him for £23m which is completely rediculous when you consider how much money you have.

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again, is there any chance we can dwnload this skin, it looks great
I've never tried to design a skin as i don't really have the time to do so. I'd rather SI brought the game out with a choice of a dark and light skin this time round.

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To cut along story short i agree with every thing you say stan.. SI makes changes to the game every year in terms of actions but graphics etc sound seem to get over looked. other games have better things about them than Fm but fm does have the best foundation for data base and so fourth.. with the power of graphics these days Fm lacks miles behind what could be achived for the current climate and its a shame.
Exactly the point i was trying to convey with my original post, thanks.
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Old 04-27-2008, 07:51 PM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #94
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I'm not too keen on most of these suggested changes. Large text and graphics (pictures) just make the game seem more childish to me, like it's made out of those massive Duplo bricks instead of proper Lego.

I think everyone on this board would much rather that the in-game issues are resolved before any cosmetic changes are implemented.
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Old 04-27-2008, 08:05 PM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #95
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I havnt come across any major in game issues, though. I mean, the only won I found was likely my bad luck

Cosmetics are a big thing as can be seen by the huge amounts of skins that get released for every new FM.

Also, graphics are the things that will help stop the game stagnating. For a game to advance, it needs to attract a new fan base - that is why PES has gone downhill recently, its fan base has stayed largely the same. Some new players to FM may be put off by the high amounts of text on screen at any given time, and may play games like FIFA manager instead.

One game that I have tried to play recently is Blizzards Warcraft 3. I have not been able to get into it, however, as current players scorn "noobs", and you cant get a game. In FM, people should be more willing to accept change as they have one major thing in common - football.

Graphics are important!!!
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Old 04-27-2008, 09:26 PM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #96
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This is actually awesome.
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Old 04-28-2008, 12:45 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #97
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Some of the OP's ideas are pretty good. I always miss the days when loads of random football related backgrounds were already with the game (CM 2 for example). For some reason I always have problems installing skins and background pics. It is true though, graphics aren't as important as how the game plays.
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Old 05-01-2008, 08:20 AM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #98
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I'm not too keen on most of these suggested changes. Large text and graphics (pictures) just make the game seem more childish to me, like it's made out of those massive Duplo bricks instead of proper Lego.

I think everyone on this board would much rather that the in-game issues are resolved before any cosmetic changes are implemented.
It had already been suggested that the GUI Team would be doing this sort of thing and not the coders. With this in mind it probably wouldn't take anything away from the 'in-game issues' being fixed.

....it may mean, however, the GUI team have to work a little more on thier graphics. :p
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Old 05-01-2008, 05:29 PM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #99
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They look fantastic i think.

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Mate, how long did it take for you to do all those mock-up s ?
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Old 05-01-2008, 07:06 PM   FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 - Graphics Speak Louder Than Words! . . . [Mock-ups Included] Post #100
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Wow I wish I could play with that. Amazing!

Are some of these things possible to make in a skin? I would download that!
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