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I've managed Red Star to the top of the world...winning the CL 4 years in a row, as well as the supercup, I'm by far the richest club in the world..but still get treated sometimes as a 2nd grade club. When an offer of petty 25 mio pounds comes for one of my top players, the chairman says it's too good to refuse. And lot's of the worlds top players don't want to move to my club, because it would be a "step down" in their career. I get it that the league is not the most competitive in the world, but the wages alone I'm able to offer the players should be reason enough to join me and win another CL... A club that has success in the world stage should be able to sign world class players, without them whining
Well the only real problem in this exact case is the chairman selling players bit. This feature is and has always been broken. Thing is, you might win the CL 10 years on the trot with Red Star but you'd still have trouble finding players who'll want to live in Belgrade. No matter how much money you offer them, they'd still rather live in Madrid, London, Milan etc and I think in this case this is quite realistic. However, this same scenario occurs at every other low reputation club in FM. In FM the most important variable is reputation. Getting the reputation to grow is a slow and painful process so you'll have to constantly win everything for a reasonably long period of time to get your Red Star to be considered as a top club. And even then you'll always be stuck with a low league reputation because this variable you cannot improve.
Originally posted by deki_s:
Well that's my point exactly. IRL if a club won the CL 4 times in a row, it would be thought as one of the best ones in the world...yes?
No, just the best for the last 4 years. What did they do 5 years ago? Absolutely nothing.
By the way, did you get them to the top in an "honest" way?
Perhaps, but IRL the most realistic scenario if Red Star somehow won the CL would be that they'd lose all their players to Chelsea and vanish back into obscurity. You cannot compare your FM scenario to real life because Red Star winning CL 4 times in a row just wouldn't happen.
yes IRL they maybe. Your in-game reputation maybe quite high, but as the others have said you are suffering from a lower league reputation. As playing for Red Star domestically is a step down from Spain, italy and England.
Your sustained success will, I think improve the league rep, if the other teams around you generally improve. At rangers once, i was very successful but suffered the same as you. However, I was able to almost sign players that were only rotation for me...their rep took a knock, i would sell them on to some of the other teams within my league (to improve them). Through my sustained success, the scottish league was given automatic qualification to the Champs league for the Champions, which is a step up compared to real life.
Originally posted by SWaRFeGa:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by deki_s:
Well that's my point exactly. IRL if a club won the CL 4 times in a row, it would be thought as one of the best ones in the world...yes?
No, just the best for the last 4 years. What did they do 5 years ago? Absolutely nothing.
By the way, did you get them to the top in an "honest" way? </BLOCKQUOTE>
Actually yes.. It took me about 5-6 years to build a solid squad and a lot of studying of the oppossition tactics, but I got there
Originally posted by redUTDgoose:
yes IRL they maybe. Your in-game reputation maybe quite high, but as the others have said you are suffering from a lower league reputation. As playing for Red Star domestically is a step down from Spain, italy and England.
Your sustained success will, I think improve the league rep, if the other teams around you generally improve. At rangers once, i was very successful but suffered the same as you. However, I was able to almost sign players that were only rotation for me...their rep took a knock, i would sell them on to some of the other teams within my league (to improve them). Through my sustained success, the scottish league was given automatic qualification to the Champs league for the Champions, which is a step up compared to real life.
I've gotten to the point where the first two teams go to the CL directly, while two go to the qualifiers. Too bad that all of the other teams suck and they are regular drop-outs in the group stages
07-04-2008, 09:18 PM
Best club in the world, but no benefits.. Post #10
well thats a good effort so far!!! well done. However, i imagine, as you say that the other teams are dog egg, that the league standard isnt high enough yet. Despite lack of realism, try to improve the league by signing players that arent good enough for you, and then sell them to the needy...think Robin Hood
Best club in the world, but no benefits.. 
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