retired_ajcace

Keepers can get good ratings when the team does poorly. Keepers almost never get poor ratings when the team does really well. Even if they're swiss cheese.

The above is a *completely flawed interpretation of football*, THAT'S the deal.

Anyone whose seen ten professional penalties in their life knows that 90%-ish of the time the keeper dives as the balls being struck, in a predetermined direction. He does not wait until he sees which side the ball is being hit before moving, because it would be past him before he *could* move.

"If they can't save it they don't move". Yeah, on penalties that's real realistic.

deantibbetts

Sorry, but i'll disagree again. In my CL semis with Barcelona I won 4-1 against Chelsea and Valdes got a 5. I'm pretty sure plenty of people will have witnessed this as well. There was even a thread started earlier today stating that players never improved from a 5 rating if they have made a mistake or performed badly in the first half, no matter how well they perform in the second half. So that would seem to prove that on occasion a keeper is bound to get a poor rating despite the team doing well, if they don't perform.

At no point did I say the keeper not moving when the penalty was being taken was realisitic or not realistic. It's a non issue, as long as they save them from time to time, who cares. I understand it shouldn't be the case, but technically it makes no difference to the outcome and so isn't to the detriment of the game.

KryptonSean

The above is a *completely flawed interpretation of football*, THAT'S the deal.

Anyone whose seen ten professional penalties in their life knows that 90%-ish of the time the keeper dives as the balls being struck, in a predetermined direction. He does not wait until he sees which side the ball is being hit before moving, because it would be past him before he *could* move.

"If they can't save it they don't move". Yeah, on penalties that's real realistic. </BLOCKQUOTE>

That's also not how it works. I've seen keepers dive the wrong way plenty of times.

Adding to that, it depends on the 'keeper as to whether he picks a direction beforehand or not. Petr Cech always dives left. Jens Lehmann guesses which way the taker will kick based on his knowledge of the taker. Jose Reina waits until the taker shapes his body. Which of them saves the most penalties? Reina.

retired_grussgott

I went from 5.0.5 to 8.0.2 not long ago, and one thing I'm very disappointed about is ratings. They were better in FM05, and weren't great then. Now, almost without exception, whoever scores gets an 8, and no one can be MoM unless they are in goal or they score. It's really gone downhill over three years.

retired_ericahutch

I disagree there. My holding midfielder more often than not gets MOM. Plus I have had strikers score and get a 7 or even a 6.