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Old 06-21-2008, 07:46 AM   An FM09 Necessity! - Everyone has their price....! Post #11
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i agree with most points, if not all points in this thread. i quit fm08 for about 4 months when i shelled out £45.5M for daniel alves a few seasons down the line. it was so off-putting, and considering he has joined barcelona for around £23M irl, massively inflated. although i could afford it.

but thats part of the problem. there is too much money in the game in the first place. yet simply balancing this with more appropreate transfer fees (which i'm certain is not a simple process) according to player performance and ambition rather than rivalries between teams and knowledge of a rivals bank balance could provide a better transfer system.
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Old 06-21-2008, 09:21 AM   An FM09 Necessity! - Everyone has their price....! Post #12
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The problem isn't clubs valuing their players at such high prices, rather that clubs in the game ae sufficiently profitable to consider those prices affordable.
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Old 06-21-2008, 09:54 AM   An FM09 Necessity! - Everyone has their price....! Post #13
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Originally posted by JJBIGS:
I totally agree that player prices are too much and tevez going for 36mill is too much. Just started a thread on this earlier today...

There is a reason why zidane is the most expensive player in the world(to this date) and buffon is the most expensive goalkeeper in the world(to this date) but in FM those values can be broken in the 2nd/3rd season no problem. I think players who want to leave the club should be able to leave and a price close to their valuation should be used. For example I wanted to get dani alves and he got unsettled and got mad for not being able to move. So he should be able to be sold for the price he wants... Cant he?

You see in real life players get unsettled and they want to leave....
Whilst I agree that the transfer model is unrealastic, pointing to Zidane is flawed.

Just because he's the record transfer, it doesn't mean his fee is a record BID. Rumours were that a few years ago Chelsea bid 60m for Shevchenko and it was rejected. It may be a few bids higher than Zidane's fee have actually been turned down.
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Old 06-21-2008, 10:19 AM   An FM09 Necessity! - Everyone has their price....! Post #14
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yeah the transfer system is one of my major problems within the game

ive had a 50m bid for micah richards rejected only to have him leave for about 19 in the next transfer window 6 months down the line

more consistency and a closer sense of reality are needed for sure

that being said i wouldnt enjoy the game as much if i couldnt take a low league team to the top within in 15 yearsish, and the current transfer system seems to enable this
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Old 06-21-2008, 11:38 AM   An FM09 Necessity! - Everyone has their price....! Post #15
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I totally agree that player prices are too much and tevez going for 36mill is too much. Just started a thread on this earlier today...

There is a reason why zidane is the most expensive player in the world(to this date) and buffon is the most expensive goalkeeper in the world(to this date) but in FM those values can be broken in the 2nd/3rd season no problem. I think players who want to leave the club should be able to leave and a price close to their valuation should be used. For example I wanted to get dani alves and he got unsettled and got mad for not being able to move. So he should be able to be sold for the price he wants... Cant he?

You see in real life players get unsettled and they want to leave....
Alves has wanted to leave for the past 3 seasons, They priced him out, Chelsea nearly paid $36 million for him and even then it was finally rejected. He wasn't happy, but because he is under contract unless he has a real hissy-fit he's not going to be let go so easily.

You just have to wait it out a couple of years with any player, he will come eventually.

I think the biggest reason people complain is that the AI clubs manage to trick them out of so much money, when in real life the buying club would have realised that they were trying to price the player out!
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Old 06-22-2008, 02:54 AM   An FM09 Necessity! - Everyone has their price....! Post #16
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What I am trying to say is that the financial system becomes very inflated over time.. There are a handfull of players earning 100k+ per week just in the premier league and yet there are not that many players who are so in FM2008. I think that also has a factor on the clubs finances as after a while if you save alot of money on wages over time then you do get a big budget the next season...

Im just wondering if the moderators or game editors of FM know this and are working towards a solution for this...

The game itself in realism is very real.. The tactical aspect and such is great but I think we do fall short in terms of the financial/transfer system... Hopefully that can be fixed for the future to make the game even better than it already is...
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Old 06-22-2008, 02:57 AM   An FM09 Necessity! - Everyone has their price....! Post #17
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Ronaldo apart? I think Madrid will prove in the next few weeks, that everyone including Ronaldo has their price.
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Old 06-22-2008, 04:47 AM   An FM09 Necessity! - Everyone has their price....! Post #18
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Ronaldo is understandable, probably the best player in the world at the moment and playing on top of his game.. so a 50+million transfer is understandable...

But some above par players for 20-30million is not justified I think.. Which very often happens in FM
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Old 06-22-2008, 08:33 AM   An FM09 Necessity! - Everyone has their price....! Post #19
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Players like Messi, Ronaldo and Fabregas should require a huge transfer fee on FM. They are young and hugely talented players who are playing at top clubs.
In my game Arsenal signed that swiss bloke Behrami for 30 million which is ridiculous. Apparently Lampard is going for a fee of about 7 or 8 million but that would never happen on FM for a player of that quality.
Ronaldo for example should not be signable on FM tbh unless its something ridiculous because its unrealistic. Clubs arnt going to sell there best players for 30 million if there at Man Utd. the players who should be sold cheaper is those of lesser teams. FM becomes unrealistic when Milan finnish 9th in Serie A and reject my 52 million quid offer for kaka who is 27 - he should now be signable for much much less.
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Old 06-22-2008, 08:58 AM   An FM09 Necessity! - Everyone has their price....! Post #20
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Players like Messi, Ronaldo and Fabregas should require a huge transfer fee on FM. They are young and hugely talented players who are playing at top clubs.
In my game Arsenal signed that swiss bloke Behrami for 30 million which is ridiculous. Apparently Lampard is going for a fee of about 7 or 8 million but that would never happen on FM for a player of that quality.
Ronaldo for example should not be signable on FM tbh unless its something ridiculous because its unrealistic. Clubs arnt going to sell there best players for 30 million if there at Man Utd. the players who should be sold cheaper is those of lesser teams. FM becomes unrealistic when Milan finnish 9th in Serie A and reject my 52 million quid offer for kaka who is 27 - he should now be signable for much much less.
Kaka is not such a good example Milan finished 5th this season, no Champions league, not so different from 9th actually but can't see them letting go of Kaka so easily. 27 is prime age, not old and crusty.
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