retired_shekhar

I'm pretty sure SI do what they can to develop the game as far as possible between the release. What I miss is not a game thing, but a suggestion boards at these forums. The way it works now the suggestions are poste in the General discussion forum, and in here they just drowns between all the threads were people are complaining about the game.

deantibbetts

Veg, there is a wishlist thread, but it is for lists of ideas, whereas single ideas are supposed to be started as new threads.

I noticed someone mentioning the possibility of a voting system and perhaps that would be a good idea so SI can gauge what a majority of the fans actually want.

retired_o0obubblietonio0o

I don't think it's a case of not working hard enough, but of making the wrong decisions. The past two editions were more and more 'simulations' as many would call them. This has taken the pick-up-and-play-ness (I'm making up words as I go along) out of the game. I think the game has become less fun and it shows in the forums.

deantibbetts

Unfortunately I think they are stuck between a rock and a hard place regards playability. Take out features that make it "too hard" and lose some hardcore fans who will think it's a step in the wrong direction, continue trying to make it a simulation (and so making it harder) lose some of the pick up and play fans.

retired_marcias

FM (or it's previous CM incarnations) have always aimed at the realism/simulation side of play though so that has not changed really - it's just that the more attempted realism you add the more things there are to balance out and to go wrong (both in terms of coding it to work well and in terms of managers having no idea what aspect of their play or management needs tweaking to improve problems).

I have bought one or two other football management games in the past (with 3d match engine) and all the surrounding simulation stuff was so bad that I soon lost interest because the 3d match engine only holds my attention and excitement for a short time before the novelty wears off.

I like having more tactical options than we used to, the trouble is I am amongst those who now finds it very difficult to work out how to balance my tactics whilst working them out for myself and using what I believe is realistic to real life (i.e. not match engine-busting tactics that see your strikers score 300 goals per season and your wingers claim 247 assists each).

I think that is an aspect where the input of the Assistant manager could be so much better to help get rid of many of the issues of people finding aspects too difficult. You can never expect a gamer to have the kind of tactical knowledge of Ray Houghton and whoever else advises SI to get their tactics modules as realistic as possible so even though it is unrealistic that a manager would lack so much in tactical knowledge and be corrected by his assistant it would be a hugely useful addition to teh game so long as Assistant manager's judgement is vastly improved from the current case.

retired_2symonds

I'm always wanted a suggestions section as well. The only reason I signed up here was to make suggestions for CM4

retired_lbils

The other problem with any complex program is that introducing new features can affect existing parts of the program in ways that are difficult to anticipate.

Every new feature probably means three or four unintended consequences to iron out. You reach a point where it isn't time effective to put too many in at once.

retired_shekhar

I know that, but the problem with a thread like that is that sooner or later that thread get messy and unorganized, because people will make all their different wishes in a thread. In the end that will be too many different wishes in one thread. In a suggestion forum, the suggestions will be organized in different threads.