retired_babyara

Well I just got the urge to start playing again after I uninstalled it 2 months ago. This time I started as Blackburn because I thought it would be fun to build them into champions and I won't get relegated and I wouldn't have much time to play anyway since I got uni exams coming up.

So I pop in my old tactic and place players in their appropriate positions and thought voila! I am the special one.

12 months later, I've barely missed relegation and in the second season I have gotten 12 draws 6 losses and only 5 wins. The game was just frustrating to me. Like I could be leading 3-0 going into half-time and they'll somehow win 4-3 time and time again. It's getting pretty comedic that I just minimise FM so save myself the anger when it's in extra time and I am leading and they use the 4-2-4 formation.

Why can't they make it easier for guys like me that have other things to do and only have around an hour or two to play. I just want to play the games/press continue without playing with tactics for an hour and by that time all my free time have been used up. It's such a chore I rather study for my exams. Screw this game /rant. And yes, I uninstalled it, again.

retired_matthowells

If you don't want to spend any time on your tactics, and just want a game where you can press continue and play the matches, then I don't think FM is really the game for you anymore.

retired_h45n1

:thup: Thanks for the rant. Bye bye

retired_babyara

Which is a shame really, I use to love this game cause I could actually have fun playing it and winning things. Now it's a chore to do anything.

I know someone is going to chime in and say use a downloaded tactic. But I love my 442 diamond, however it seems FM decided that it shouldn't work anymore no matter what even though I been using the same tactic basically for the last 4 versions and had great success with it. And no, I am not going to download some of those weird as 3-5-2 tactics with enough farrows to give you a seizure. Why can't they make the 442 work grrrrrr.

I just feel I shouldn't have to touch and adjust 50 different settings every match to ensure I don't concede, which is way too much effort for a casual gamer like me. I really hope SI tone it down a bit for FM09 and the game goes back to its root of the fun days like 01/02 where everything is so easy and simple to do.

retired_STRIDER

I agree with Kain.

Football Manager is in no way, shape, or form, a quick game. It's a dedicated simulation, intended to be slow and difficult.

And unfortunately, I don't think there are many alternatives for your requirements. Even the more casual FIFA Manager is gonna require time and thought. It's just the nature of this type of game.

retired_cdenise

Making the game simplistic would defy everything it is about. I do agree that sometimes it's frustrating when you don't have much time and just wanna have a little fun, but toning it down would cause massive problems with the FM fanbase (myself included), as we always crave more and more realism. In my opinion, this game should have implemented an adjustable difficulty level long ago, which would surely please both types of gamers.

retired_babyara

I guess what I am trying to say is that I am hating all this micro management part of the tactics. In the old versions you'll just have defend/attack etc but now you have got bars for all kind of things which is just plain confusing. Now I know it's a simulation but this is just a bit too much for me. In real life you don't see managers on the 80th twinkering with their tactics in so much depth like you have to in FM.

I've tried FIFA before and I hate to say it but it is more fun for casual gamers like me. Yet I keep coming back to SI cause I am just attached to this series. But I am afraid this feeling might be soon gone cause this game just isn't fun anymore. You got to understand that although it is a real life simulation this is still a game, it should still be fun. By making it so hard it is taking the fun away from the game, might as well play with Microsoft Excel.

retired_ehoff15

just curious, have you try to use only the standard tactics without any detail tweaking?

The reason i ask that is because, from my own experience, using the standard tactics with only minimal tweating (in my case, reduce Creative freedom) work suprisingly well. I don't win all the games, but my team usually perform reasonably well. Got Chestfield promoted to championship in three seasons (spending 10k in total), and Leeds in EPL in two seasons playing that way.

Maybe you should have a go at that, see how far it will take you

retired_adge1475

Just download a few from the forum and try them out. I don't like to dedicate a ton of time either and that's what I do. You may not win as much as you would with hours of tweaking, but you'll do well enough.

For a long term game, I'd strongly recommend Ipswich. They have a lot of $ so you can get easy promotion first season and build from there. TBH Blackburn is a tough game because your squad is pretty thin and you have very little money to work with unless you sell the best players.

retired_ncbarry

Why on earth would you want the same tactic to win every game in every version of this game? The attitude of, "I want to win every game doing something completely exploitive" really baffles me.