retired_babyara

I am going to pretend that you didn't just call me a cheat and basically imply that my 442 diamond tactic is an exploit.

retired_ncbarry

I am going to pretend that you didn't just call me a cheat and basically imply that my 442 diamond tactic is an exploit. </BLOCKQUOTE>
Okay.

retired_shatara_1988

I still think one of the ways to address this kind of concern would be to have some sort of feedback or advice on tactics available from your assistant - so themavsman could at least get a suggestion as to what's going wrong with his formation.

Seems like it would be easy to make this completely optional, so if you didn't want any help you'd never have to get it, and it would help a lot of players with FM's pretty daunting learning curve.

Unfortunately SI seems dead set against anything like it, which i think is unfortunate.

BOSNA

It seems one problem with this game is that almost nobody wants to watch full matches game in and game out. It seems the AI has the advantage of altering strategies during a full match, even when you're only watching key plays. The human manager seems to be at a disadvantage under these circumstances.

I wish SI would give you a "sit in the stands" option where you could give a pre-game strategy to the assistant. You could tell him under what circumstances you want changes to be made during the match, and leave the rest to his judgment. Then, if you want, you could just sit back and watch the game, and not have to worry so much about frenetic tactics changing every few seconds to match the AI manager. I think it would make the game more fun and seem a little bit more fair.

retired_ncbarry

Sitting on the formations screen during the match helps. Altering your formation depending on the other team's success and strategy helps a great deal.

deantibbetts

The tactics aspect of the game has been roudnly criticised for a while now and hopefully it will be looked at in FM09. The one thing I would say is, people continue with this thing about "no real life manager would say attack by 11", yeah this is true, but no real life manager would say "attack, mixed passing, medium tackling, don't counter attack", which is what the previous versions were like.

It was all a bit too simplistic. As said above, if you want something easy and LMA'ish, then FM is not the game for you, but I wouldn't be put off just yet. Tactical tinkering is a bit of a myth created by these forums, there are jsut as many people who have great success with only one tactic that they never change as people who make changes every other minute.

This is all possible and I only get about 30 mins of playing time a day, yet i'm in 2018. I don't muck about with tactics and rarely make too much of a change to my starting line up.

You can't have the best of both worlds, i.e. an incredibly in depth game, which is as close to real life management as a game has got (FM) or a fluffy easy walk in the park, that is just a bit of fun and only takes 20 mins (Fifa).

retired_bamabound0812

Being hard is what makes FM fun.

retired_spellkast

i think we all have our favourite tactic. We then go out and buy the players for those positions and then just when we think we've got the balance right, boom! you get humped 3 nil! which can be a bit of a heart breaker. after all you've played previous versions, you know what you like for your team, you think you've got the wealth of knowledge and then it all comes crashing down.
But it could be a lesson in disguise, after all, how many managers stick to the same formation week in week out? no two teams are the same, thats why we have to do our homework a bit on the opposition to exploit any weeknesses to our advantage. thats what they'd do in real life.

deantibbetts

I don't really get this altering tactics depending on your opposition stuff. I started FM08 and played a variety of saves with different teams and devised a few tactics, now I have only 2 tactics, one for home games and one for away games. I've used these tactics every game for 10 seasons and have won 8 titles and 2 CL's with different teams, i've played in German, Spain and England. I never make any changes during the match other than subs, I suppose this is more unrealistic than changing tweaking your tactics, but I genuinely think that sometimes we are forced into beleiveing we need to because of these forums.

retired_spellkast

i suppose what i'm saying is that if one week you've got a numpty winger who has no pace and the next week you've got ronaldo, youre going to close that wee bugger down before he does some critical damage. if you leave it on a standard instruction that you've played in the last 10 games, then it will be found out and the damage will be done.