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04-13-2008, 05:55 AM
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Struggling to get a new job despite decent success Post #11 | | Newb
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I can't get a job at all. I've just started a game unemployed for the first time and even Stafford turned me down...
Anyone know how long it normally takes to get a job?
Sorry for hijacking your post...
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04-13-2008, 06:15 AM
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Struggling to get a new job despite decent success Post #12 | | Registered User
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Originally posted by nelsonmcjones:
Anyone know how long it normally takes to get a job?
| They significantly altered the whole job hiring system. Now, each reputation seems to be about half as powerful as it used to be, and nationality apparently plays a big role as well.
So, if you try going to the same clubs you could get prior to 8.0.2, you'll never get a job. If you start aiming for the low of the low leagues, it won't take any longer than it used to.
For example, I used to be able to start with the lowest possible reputation, and with US nationality. With that, I could get any Conference North/South job I wanted. But now, with the same manager, the Conf. North/South is out of reach. I've already gone two years of unhesitant rejection from Conf. North/South clubs. However, applying to the South African second league yielded results, as well as the Swedish Div. 2.
This also goes for the original post. You'll need to do better in order to get the jobs your after. Or simply aim for lower clubs.
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04-13-2008, 06:32 AM
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Struggling to get a new job despite decent success Post #13 | | Newb
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Here's my theory:
Like board confidence, only the immediate past is taken into account when it comes to your rep.
IE, you can win the treble 10 years running, but if you fail to win something in your 11th year you can be fired because the AI chairman only cares about THIS season's achievements.
If I'm right, then perhaps ALL chairmen look at you this way. You've been fired having not achieved what you were supposed to. Ergo, you are not an attractive option. Even quitting may make you look like, well, a quitter, ie, not loyal.
So the only way to get a better job is to apply for one while you are still employed.
Thoughts on this?
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04-13-2008, 07:34 AM
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Struggling to get a new job despite decent success Post #14 | | Newb
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Originally posted by backpackant:
Here's my theory:
Like board confidence, only the immediate past is taken into account when it comes to your rep.
IE, you can win the treble 10 years running, but if you fail to win something in your 11th year you can be fired because the AI chairman only cares about THIS season's achievements.
If I'm right, then perhaps ALL chairmen look at you this way. You've been fired having not achieved what you were supposed to. Ergo, you are not an attractive option. Even quitting may make you look like, well, a quitter, ie, not loyal.
So the only way to get a better job is to apply for one while you are still employed.
Thoughts on this?
| Well, I usually resign and still get good jobs (like the ones earlier in the thread) or another club offers their vacant managerial position to me (Fenerbahce, Ajax, FC Dallas). Of course, I had a lot of success (winning leagues + promotion) to get these job offers.
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04-13-2008, 11:52 PM
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Struggling to get a new job despite decent success Post #15 | | Newb
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Curious if you have had any luck getting a job yet !Steve1977?
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04-14-2008, 12:06 AM
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Struggling to get a new job despite decent success Post #16 | | Newb
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Well, I usually resign and still get good jobs (like the ones earlier in the thread) or another club offers their vacant managerial position to me (Fenerbahce, Ajax, FC Dallas). Of course, I had a lot of success (winning leagues + promotion) to get these job offers.
| I've struggled a couple of times, and I know a lot of people on here have. Perhaps I've got impatient too quickly, thinking winning the league once in 3 years and a couple of cups will get me to a better club. I games where I've had a LOT of success I'm constantly offered jobs, including internationals.
I guess it's down to the scale of the acheivements too.
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04-14-2008, 01:06 AM
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Struggling to get a new job despite decent success Post #17 | | Newb
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Originally posted by backpackant:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Well, I usually resign and still get good jobs (like the ones earlier in the thread) or another club offers their vacant managerial position to me (Fenerbahce, Ajax, FC Dallas). Of course, I had a lot of success (winning leagues + promotion) to get these job offers.
| I've struggled a couple of times, and I know a lot of people on here have. Perhaps I've got impatient too quickly, thinking winning the league once in 3 years and a couple of cups will get me to a better club. I games where I've had a LOT of success I'm constantly offered jobs, including internationals.
I guess it's down to the scale of the acheivements too. </BLOCKQUOTE>
My achievements are pretty average actually (all my major achievements occurred when I was at TFC): win MLS, MLS Cup, Superliga 2 times, I never got promoted to the Premiership with Plymouth, Club World Championship 3rd place 2 times, I made the semis in the FA + English Cup. I just resigned from Plymouth (who are probably going to be promoted) to take the PSV job. I'm currently in 3rd place, behind FC Groningen and RBC. I have a big game against FC Groningen in my next match.
I usually don't think about winning the league, then leaving for a better club. I am ambitious, but I won't leave until the right team comes with the right offer (I took the PSV job because of my familiarity with the Dutch League).
Maybe my MLS achievements, high-scoring tactic, and Cup wins were enough to get the PSV job?
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04-21-2008, 12:52 AM
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Struggling to get a new job despite decent success Post #18 | | Registered User
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Well the only team willing to offer me a job were Barnet and I duly took it. The team didnt have too many players and I had to buy to sell.
Managed to bring in a few players including a seasoned player I had for me at Forest. Got them playing pretty decent and although quite low in the table, it was a 'false position' due to us drawing a lot of games.
Unfortunately, I didnt realise when buying two influential central midfielders that they wouldnt join the club until January! In my haste to get them I neglected to spot this critical fact! (second time iv done this now). Consequently we got a load of draws and had those players arrived sooner we would have been higher.
But I was just sick to the back teeth of conceding late goals, losing games where I should have won...and most of all their disgusting brown kit. So I resigned and dont care if im managing Abroath! As long as they play in a decent kit hehe.
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06-24-2008, 06:58 PM
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Struggling to get a new job despite decent success Post #19 | | Registered User
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i am manager of celtic first season won league cup,the league,uefa cup and scottish cup and the super cup.second season won league cup,the league, champions league,scottish cup.i am world class manager now.i have been linked to the man utd and bayern jobs so applied and got rejected.also from arsenal,need a new challange but cant get another job any help please.
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06-24-2008, 07:34 PM
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Struggling to get a new job despite decent success Post #20 | | Newb
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Have been with a successful Chelsea team for 6 years and possibly fancy a move to another Prem club. Is there a way of letting clubs know you would be interested in becoming manager if the position arose - or do I simply have keep a close eye on "jobs" and can only apply from there?
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