retired_kkdanno

8 hours!?

8 hours!?!?!?!?

I take 24 and it's fine

retired_rotert

You've obviously taken the time to write this, but not sure what the point is. None of hasn't been said and debated before. Mostly answered with "it's your tactics". If you have a grasp of the game you don't really need the tactics forum to beat WBA or "grey" teams - just a bit of thought and patience.

I should say I AGREE with most of what you've said about media etc (an option to have ass man do it, or just more options in replies to make it interesting). Just want to ask:

1) What penalty shootout bug? I've never seen it but will look out for it.
2) If you don't like the corner expoit why set it up? I get around 15-20 goals from corners a season which isn't unreasonable, and that's without challenging the GK.

I find this game hugely entertaining and playable. The fact you HAVE to think about each game instead of setting up one tactic and winning everything is what makes FM08 so superior to FM07 and previous versions. The little bugs and quirks are merely gnats nibbling at a very succulent rump.

retired_aduell

Strangely enough, i came on the boards this morning to start a new thread on why i dont find the game fun anymore?

I do tend to agree with the OP on some points, but for me, there is just ONE major factor when it comes to the game having become completely devoid of fun, so here goes...

...Simple really, i just NEVER get anything out of 50-50 games or games in which i might have been ever so slightly outplayed. This has meant that it has become completely pointless watching any 2D rendition of a game that i am not completely dominating, because i already know the outcome, wheres the fun in that?

On top of that, i still draw and lose games in which i have outshot my opponent as much as 20-1, losing or dropping points to some bizarre goal or other, whilst the opposing GK of often questionable ability miraculously saves every point blank effort my star striker in dazzling form can muster, often giving said GK his first and only 9 rating of his season to date and maybe even his first clean sheet to go with it?

I'll come clean and say that i do still find the game particularly easy, probably too easy in fact? as i always tend to overperform over the course of each season, but this thread is about the lack of FUN and my point is, how can you grasp any measure of fun out of a game in which the only way you ever win games(as often as that might be) is under the exact same circumstances, game after game after.....YAWN

retired_tlmccarty

I agree with your points about the media, particularly commenting on old players facing the club; and those about points of controversy in a match, e.g. a dubious penalty. I guess it's when you have been playing for some time and the same questions and responses keep popping up every ten minutes. Also, team talks; although I tend to look after those myself, as you say the ass man generally can be a bit clueless and just keep suggesting "for the fans" and if you go with him, the team more often than not get upset and feel you don't give them enough credit.

I still really enjoy the game, more so, however when playing in network games online than alone these days.

retired_rotert

Well not everyone has that problem - I certainly don't - so it must be tactical.

Hundreds of threads on this. Basically if you are outshooting but not scoring your chances are not of sufficient quality - despite how they appear. You need to make minor tweaks to your tempo or passing style and 9 times out of 10 you'll win 1-0 or 2-0. At least *I* do.

In general relation to this thread, SI will never please everyone. I guess they'll lose some customers and gain others.

retired_garth

The game has become alot more realistic, and I think that is not necessarily a good thing. A bit more of the "game" side could be used to make the game a bit more relaxing and easy to play. This game is as close to real life football management as there is though, and sometimes I do agree you want to just do your bits in the game and play it easier.

retired_aduell

Well not everyone has that problem - I certainly don't - so it must be tactical.

Hundreds of threads on this. Basically if you are outshooting but not scoring your chances are not of sufficient quality - despite how they appear. You need to make minor tweaks to your tempo or passing style and 9 times out of 10 you'll win 1-0 or 2-0. At least *I* do.
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Ahhhh as expected, the old "its your tactics" chestnut!

Not being funny mate, but i have won the EPL within just a few seasons with Derby County and the like, so this is not a tactical issue of any kind!

Its more like i've cracked the game and so the AI has to keep coming up with even the most unscrupulous and ridiculous scenarios, just so that i dont just go out and win every game by a cricket score as the stats would suggest?

And as for Tempo being the reason Strikers miss easy chances and lowering the quality of the effort, well thats just the funniest and stupidest thing i've ever heard?

Especially in a fast tempo'd league like the EPL where Strikers often only have a split second to make a decision or take a shot, most efforts are rushed, they have to be, how many times do you see any Striker in the EPL having 5 or 10 seconds to think about what he's going to do before he does it?

IRL it does'nt matter whether you play at a very slow or very quick tempo, the created effort still has to be decided on within a split second!

Who comes up with this crap about Tempo and Strikers missing?

retired_candycorncats

How did get this idea that one season should be 8 hours of playing time?

My seasons are at least 2 days of playing time and I like that.

jtballer

First of all, I hope everyone will understand that every paying user may have different expectations from game and they have right to raise their concerns if they are not satisfied. Just because you are happy does not neccessarily make the game perfect. In the end SI will never be able make everyone happy in the same time but at least they can try to understand different views.

I do agree in most parts with AMCGovern. Obviously some people are happy with more micro-management even if it becomes very repetative and its outcome is exteremely minor but on the other hand there as many if not more people who dont even want to spend time here to write but still likes a solid and rapid gameplay. If many say they want to complete a season in less than 10 hours, it should not be ignored. Maybe as suggested advanced asisstant manager options could provide this.


My personal preference;
- Match day tactics are fun
- Buying/selling/loaning players are fun. Although selling players has become very painful in recent versions.
- Light financial management is fine. Wage budget and transfer budget is reasonable but even after sticking with these if my my club still loses lots of money due to extra expenses which I have no clue about, it is not fun anymore.
- Investment on traning facilities and deciding which player should focus on which traning(= which stats) is fine. Having individiaul traning levels for each player and completely rubbish way of increasing/decreasing stats are not fun.
- Match day talks, media interaction, etc... is a good idea in theory but current implementation if far away from being fun. I would leave to leave them all to Asisstant because I dont enjoy doing it but somehow each time I rely on him my players start to complain.
- Feeder club was one of the best addition made in recent years. Please improve it further more; I want to more word on team selection, I want to have an option to force feeder club to field my player or I cancel offer. On the other positive impact if financial feeder clubs are very unclear.
- There are lots of in-game bugs and I dont expect to receive a %100 working match engine ever. However I would appreciate a bit better Beta testing to nail some more obvious problems

retired_SnJ

actually you can set up one tactic and win everything and without the use of OI or in game twekaing. ive done it on numerous occasions. but just to note you obvioulsy have to have or be a very good team