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Old 06-26-2008, 08:23 AM   :( Chairman sold Ochoa, Zapata, and Nihat for $0.00 Post #41
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But why should I be in debt to the point where my star players are being sold for free? I am always UNDER the weekly wage bill, I DID NOT ask the chairman for more money, and I sold players for a high amount of money.

The system is clearly flawed.
Wait... YOU set the player's value to $0 and they were sold for $0... but it's the SYSTEM that's flawed?
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Old 06-26-2008, 08:27 AM   :( Chairman sold Ochoa, Zapata, and Nihat for $0.00 Post #42
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It is at zero so that other Clubs won't bid around 5 million for them which the club would def. agree too. Usually, setting it at zero allows me to keep my players, until this time. So yes, flawed.
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Old 06-26-2008, 08:28 AM   :( Chairman sold Ochoa, Zapata, and Nihat for $0.00 Post #43
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Maybe not directly on the topic of this problem but I too find that finances seem to fluctuate quite drastically at times. A situation in one of my games is I just gained promotion (from league 1 to champ) so you would assume more transfer money and more wages. However the next season came and No transfer funds came up and budget only increased by a couple of thousand. At the start of the season I noticed the balance was around 2 million and I sold a few fringe players so i am 7k under budget after signing a few players on frees. The team is performing around mid table which is better than I expected them to do considering just being promoted and the team not really being improved upon. Due to competing in a higher league and the decent form you would expect crowds to be fairly high meaning income. However at the current time I am now 600k in debt losing alot of money each month??? I reckon that this would be wiped out at the end of the season but untill then you are pretty much stuffed when it comes to transfers as even if I did sell a player I wouldn't be able to spend the money as only around 20% available.

One of the things about this game is all I really want to do is manage but at times it feels like i am playing finance manager 2008 having to constantly watch the finanaces where in real life managers nowadays dont really have much influence when it come to controling them. All they do is choose the players and it is up to the directers and chaiman to get them. This is something i would like to see implemented into fm 09.
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Old 06-26-2008, 08:30 AM   :( Chairman sold Ochoa, Zapata, and Nihat for $0.00 Post #44
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It is at zero so that other Clubs won't bid around 5 million for them which the club would def. agree too. Usually, setting it at zero allows me to keep my players, until this time. So yes, flawed.
Players valued at $0 being sold for $0 doesn't sound like much of a flaw to me.
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Old 06-26-2008, 08:31 AM   :( Chairman sold Ochoa, Zapata, and Nihat for $0.00 Post #45
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You still do not seem to grasp it; the point is the reasonings that is MAKING me value my players at $0.00
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Old 06-26-2008, 08:34 AM   :( Chairman sold Ochoa, Zapata, and Nihat for $0.00 Post #46
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He means no chairman in thier right mind would accept a bid of $0 for thier star players. He set the value at $0 so the board could not accept bids at around 5 million which they are likely to accept.
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Old 06-26-2008, 08:35 AM   :( Chairman sold Ochoa, Zapata, and Nihat for $0.00 Post #47
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lol thanks... exactly.
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Old 06-26-2008, 08:38 AM   :( Chairman sold Ochoa, Zapata, and Nihat for $0.00 Post #48
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What I think has happened here is your attempts to avoid the chairman interference has lead to it, based on the maths behind it. All guesses of course so I could be completely wrong but...

Presumably a Chairman will accept a bid for a player that is either a) a reasonable amount of money that the club needs or b) is significantly more than their current value.
It might be a simple formula I guess along the lines of if bid > than value+25% then accept.

By setting a value of 0 that mathmatically makes any bid, even if all that is involved is 1k or the promise of a sell on fee, significantly about that threshold.

So it's not a flaw that the bid was accepted, but again you shouldn't have had to mess around with the player values to try and fend off bids. If you're in a good financial state then bids should hardly ever be accepted over your head. If this was the case then you wouldn't have to play about with the values. Something that needs tweaking for 09 perhaps.
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Old 06-26-2008, 08:39 AM   :( Chairman sold Ochoa, Zapata, and Nihat for $0.00 Post #49
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yeah but you indicated (by setting those players values to 0) that you were willing to accept letting them move.

If you don't treat the game realistically then how can you expect to get realistic results?
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Old 06-26-2008, 08:40 AM   :( Chairman sold Ochoa, Zapata, and Nihat for $0.00 Post #50
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significantly above that threshold.
*Sigh* should have read through it before posting.
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