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Old 07-01-2008, 11:55 AM   FM2008 star system is very stupid, check this out! Post #1
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Now i've found something wierd and not happy, I sold a player from my team, he had 4 gold stars, once he joined the other club I scout him, I had only 1 star, WTF is going on?! Is the scouting system a fluke?

I sold Ronaldo, he has max stars in my Man Utd squad...I think 7 stars or 8 (this was to test to see if above was right), I scouted him when he joined Inter...guess what the same scout says 3 stars now?

Also the stars on the squad screen and the 'Assistant advice...> Get team report' have different stars, i've just found this out, i'm very angry!

I always but players what the scouts tell me, if a player looks brilliant and the scout says 2 stars I don't buy, can't believe this.
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your scouts CA and PA judging must be useless then!
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:16 PM   FM2008 star system is very stupid, check this out! Post #3
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I used my best scout with 19 CA and 19 PA
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:38 PM   FM2008 star system is very stupid, check this out! Post #4
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I always but players what the scouts tell me, if a player looks brilliant and the scout says 2 stars I don't buy, can't believe this.
My goodness, what prompted you to be so trustful of artificial intelligence. It's just a game, it's definitely not going to be perfect. Leave the abject obedience of AI to when robots take over the earth.
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Old 07-01-2008, 06:16 PM   FM2008 star system is very stupid, check this out! Post #5
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And its replicating an objective opinon, so they will get it wrong.
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Old 07-01-2008, 06:31 PM   FM2008 star system is very stupid, check this out! Post #6
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Because scouts at top clubs are never wrong.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mai...4/sfnjef15.xml

They base their opinion on current form and performances, as well as reputation. Of course, in real life, your scout would know all about Ronaldo having had him at your club, but I don't think this is how the scouts work. Perhaps a weakness, but since the example you give was engineered it's hardly a fair test.

There ARE well-known issues with scouting, though, and you're not wrong that the star system is flawed. Something SI have said many times they are reviewing for FM09. But you can't expect any scout to be flawless, in FM or real life.
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Scouting in general sucks.
I am using fmm to edit my scouts judgment to 100/100 so all of them are 100% perfect
I have a central defender with CA/PA 170/175 and send my scout to watch another central defender with CA/PA 117/130 .
The reply is that the 117 guy is not that far in ability from the 170 and he has the potential to be as good as him.
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Old 07-01-2008, 07:40 PM   FM2008 star system is very stupid, check this out! Post #8
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The stars are relative to the other players in your squad. If your 'star' player moves to a team with a better squad, his star rating will change.
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We know...scouting sucks.

In my game 4 stars means one of the best in the world, 3 stars would be a leading premier league player while 2 stars means at worst a good premier league player. Completely useless.

Ratings should be based on an absolute scale and not some silly relative scale. Whoever thought that was a good idea needs a kick in the nuts if you ask me.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:53 PM   FM2008 star system is very stupid, check this out! Post #10
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The stars are relative to the other players in your squad. If your 'star' player moves to a team with a better squad, his star rating will change.
WHS... Bad example but say you have Ronaldo in the Derby County side(soryy Derby fans), he'll be given a 7* rating as he'd be by far there best player in the side, if you then filled that Derby County side with players like Messi, Silva, Aguero etc etc all the best players in the game, his * rating would probably move to a 3* or 4*, not because he's got worse, but because the standard of the team is very high, so now he's just no better than rest of your squad.

In my previous save i had my team win everything avaialable domestically and in Europe (and the CWC) twice in a row, no player had more than 4*'s.

Hope I got across what I meant.
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