Fitness.com
Advertisement
Go Back   Sports Forum > Community > Football Manager

Football Manager

Discuss Football Manager 2008 for PC, MAC and PSP versions of FM 2008. Click here to view our FM resources.


» Current Poll
Best 5 club teams in history of Football:
Liverpool 1977-1978 - 100.00%
1 Vote
Real Madrid 1956-1960 - 0%
0 Votes
Juventus 1985 - 0%
0 Votes
Milan 1989-1990 - 100.00%
1 Vote
Ajax 1971-1973 - 0%
0 Votes
Santos 1962-1963 - 0%
0 Votes
Torinho 1940's - 100.00%
1 Vote
Ajax 1995 - 0%
0 Votes
Flamengo 1981 - 100.00%
1 Vote
Benfica 1961-1962 - 100.00%
1 Vote
Total Votes: 1
You may not vote on this poll.
» Stats
Members: 103,045
Threads: 85,013
Posts: 1,031,287
Top Poster: Karky (9,532)
Welcome to our newest member, ValeryGah
If you register for free, you will be able to post threads, vote on polls and lots more. If you have problems with the registration or logging in, please contact the administrator.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-02-2008, 05:27 PM   Why Hard-Coded? Post #1
Newb
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_topsgt13 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Why Hard-Coded?

I have a silly question Why there are some things hard-coded in the game? By "hard-coded" do you mean they are hard to modify, or the term "hard" refers to something else?

Anyway, let's say that someone has huge skills in programing and stuff like this... Could he modify the game by his own will? Cause if that is possible, i'll go right now to a software school or something like that, learn al the programing stuff in the world, and the i'll create my own game.

Sorry for the silly topic, but this curiosity is killing me!!!
retired_topsgt13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2008, 05:53 PM   Why Hard-Coded? Post #2
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_jon2508 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

I would think that's illegal.
retired_jon2508 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2008, 05:57 PM   Why Hard-Coded? Post #3
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_ncbarry is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Anyway, let's say that someone has huge skills in programing and stuff like this... Could he modify the game by his own will? Cause if that is possible, i'll go right now to a software school or something like that, learn al the programing stuff in the world, and the i'll create my own game.
I'm not sure but I think that's called a career, and I assume you can do anything with this game if you like, but you can't distribute your changes without the express permission of Sports Interactive along with AFC Wimbledon.
retired_ncbarry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2008, 06:03 PM   Why Hard-Coded? Post #4
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_florentino is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

[quote]Originally posted by hersch:
I have a silly question Why there are some things hard-coded in the game? By "hard-coded" do you mean they are hard to modify, or the term "hard" refers to something else?[quote]

"Hard coded" - not able to be altered within the application.

Quote:
Anyway, let's say that someone has huge skills in programing and stuff like this... Could he modify the game by his own will? Cause if that is possible, i'll go right now to a software school or something like that, learn al the programing stuff in the world, and the i'll create my own game.
He could modify it, but as mentioned earlier there are legal implications in doing so. Also - the game is compiled, so you can't see the source code that actually goes into the game itself.
retired_florentino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2008, 07:54 PM   Why Hard-Coded? Post #5
Newb
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_topsgt13 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

ok, thaks dudes! i don't want to modify the game so i can sell it... i only want to modify it for me!
retired_topsgt13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2008, 08:49 PM   Why Hard-Coded? Post #6
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 3
Rep Power: 0
darreng is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
i don't want to modify the game so i can sell it... i only want to modify it for me!
Thats why the game comes with an editor so you can modify things yourself. About the only thing you cant modify with the editor that you might actually want to would be the league rules. What exactly is it that you want to change that you currently cant?
darreng is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2008, 09:06 PM   Why Hard-Coded? Post #7
Newb
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_lensworth is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Hard-Coded is stuff in the code of the program that cannot be changed unless you re-compile that .exe file.

Soft-Coded is things in the code that relate to an outside variable. Outside variables being the database you can edit.

As a computer programmer myself I'd love to be able to have the skills to make a game like FM, but I would have no idea where to start, and I'm only one person. I'm guessing the team behind FM contains tens? hundreds? of coders (that's excluding the research people).

And if you just want to modify a few things, try the editor. If you want to modify anything else, then a) what is it? and b) maybe suggest it for the next version...
retired_lensworth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2008, 09:14 PM   Why Hard-Coded? Post #8
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_ncbarry is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Certain things like leagues, league structures, tiebreak rules, competition rules, competition structure, I think those types of things are hard coded.
retired_ncbarry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2008, 09:15 PM   Why Hard-Coded? Post #9
Newb
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_topsgt13 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

what do i want to modify?

e.g.
1. i want to create my own league. with it's own rules... i want to play i some kind of an amateur league, where the winner or runners up are not playing in european cups, a league where is no promotion or relegation. i know it's spund stupid or boring, but for me is not. there is no specific reason why i want to do this, it's just a personal options or wish
2. modify some unreal league rules.
3. in my current game, in 2026, the last day of the euro cup group stage is played on the 26 th of december very unreal!!! and it seem that this match day is pushed by the game further and further in time, every year!!!! what will happen in 2050??? everyone else here who had this problem?
4. just for curiosity...

thanks for your answers!
retired_topsgt13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2008, 09:23 PM   Why Hard-Coded? Post #10
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 2
Rep Power: 0
train is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Sir_Liam:
I would think that's illegal.
I wouldn't. Once you buy the game, you are free to do with it as you wish. Distributing is as your "own game" is a problem, but he said he would "Create his own game" - which is entirely legal.

As for "Hard-Coded". They are basically things in the game that you can not change, via any editor or external program.
train is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Sports Forum > Community > Football Manager

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar threads to Why Hard-Coded?
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hard coded. Why!?
Hard coded. Why!?: Hi. At first sorry for my English. I've...
armbi Skinning Hideout 0 01-28-2008 12:36 AM
FM Coded in which software
FM Coded in which software: Which language or software do SI use to create...
varunm Football Manager 9 01-25-2008 10:36 PM
Hex editing hard-coded features
Hex editing hard-coded features: I have a couple of questions about playing around...
Majs Skinning Hideout 2 12-05-2006 02:16 PM
Hard-Fi
Hard-Fi: http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/908/untitledhar...
Freddie Other 0 05-23-2006 09:32 PM
LLM-how hard is this?
LLM-how hard is this?: My first post in here so hi. I have read the...
seeker Scout Report 28 02-21-2006 01:37 AM

More threads of hersch
Thread Date Forum Replies Last Post
Why Hard-Coded?
Why Hard-Coded?: I have a silly question :D Why there are some...
07-02-2008 Football Manager 17 07-03-2008 06:54 AM
WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM FM09?
WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM FM09?: there are a lot of discussions about this... what...
07-01-2008 Football Manager 5 07-01-2008 11:14 PM
fresh new league???
fresh new league???: can i start a fresh new league with the data...
12-11-2007 Skinning Hideout 1 12-11-2007 09:19 PM

Other threads in forum Football Manager
Thread Date Thread Starter Replies Last Post
Unlimited money....if you want it.
Unlimited money....if you want it.: Im sure people already know about this money...
12-17-2007 LOZELS 1 12-17-2007 05:54 PM
£60 million for Dean richardson?
£60 million for Dean richardson?: Im in my third season and im manager of real...
11-30-2007 Alphaaz 9 11-30-2007 04:28 PM
Has Anyone Got Most Of the World Covered
Has Anyone Got Most Of the World Covered: by their scouts knowledge???? thx Martin
11-08-2007 MartsMac1982 6 11-09-2007 08:57 AM
Help Me Please
Help Me Please: I have recently bought football manager 2008 and...
11-08-2007 Liam James 2 11-08-2007 11:36 PM
football manager handheld 2008
football manager handheld 2008: will there be a handheld 2008 and if so will...
08-09-2007 MiCkEyMcMuLLaN 4 08-17-2007 01:19 PM

» Online Users: 17
0 members and 17 guests
No Members online
Most users ever online was 2,128, 07-21-2008 at 08:27 PM.

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:47 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0
Fitness.com | Weight Loss | Training & Fitness | BodyBuilding | Chinese | Spanish | French | Germany | Italian | Friend Codes |
You are viewing Why Hard-Coded?.