TsetungPFC

I reached 2012-13 (OK thats not that far) and regens are poor. Very poor.

What the hell is this? It is going to ruin my game. How can I play this as a long term game when RL players are head and shoulder above regens??

I scouted most of the 18 and 17 year olds and there is precisley one(!) player among them that has the potential to develop into a leading Premiership player. And even he has really weird stats that make me seriously doubt this.

Infact all regens have seriously chaotic stats. Too many are extremley low and the players develop at a snail`s pace.

What the hell?

VonBlade

Because by the time the whole game is regens, everyone sucks

It's high-time that SI seperated Physical, Technical and Mental stats into different CA/PA groups.

At the moment every player under 20 has the physical stats of Bernard Manning after a particularly large pie and chips.
VB

Dregganor

I agree, which is why I save my game right before the youth players are brought up so I can restart until there's a decent batch of youth players though.


I usually restart enough times so everyone in the Premiership has decent enough talent.

!Steve1977

Is this because you are lookign at regens that havent been nurtured by clubs yet?

Can anyone who has played the game for a few seasons confirm if regens are indeed awful?

Id like to confirm cause otherwise it's going to be a waste of time playing it anymore

and...

It's going to make FML a complete waste of time because all the players in that will be regens quite quickly.

FMFanatic8080

the original poster is probably looking at unfinished players (players who need much more work to be done). i recommend using mini scout and search for regens who has good potential and leave them in your reserves for 2-3 years and keep loaning them out for 2-3 years at the age of 21-23 they should be ready for your firsst team even the best team as a squad player


It does take ALOT of time though to train a regen which is very frustrating, because like bojan starts off with 130+ ca start off game, you be lucky to find any regen above 70+ ca at his age!

it takes roughly 5-6 years to train up a quality regen, also in most of my games i played so far theres always regens available who just needs polishing up

The Lambs

I am playing as Aston Villa in the 2017/18 season, I started with a lower team and joined about 7 years ago.

Using FMM I can see we have a reputation of 9542, which is no suprise as we are the best team in the world.

Youth setup at 20 and a youth academy.

I recorded the the youth talent over 8 re-loads in the 2017 summer.

Here is the spread of PA I got over the 8 reloads:

190-199 = 0
180-189 = 1 (184, so good enough to be a world star if he reached his potential)
170-179 = 1 (174, good enough to be a Premier star if trained up well)
160-169 = 1 (166 premier first team player)
150-159 = 23 (Most will be destined for League one or Championship football unless they reach their potential)
140-149 = 20
130-139 = 31
120-129 = 2
110-119 = 2
100-109 = 0
99 and less = 12 (including a 39!)

On average I had 12 regens come through the ranks, but the range was from 7 to 14.

No CA was higher than 85, with out using FMM or the scout reports I would never of known which players were worth keeping and who needed releasing on a free.

I checked back through all my old graduates on the transfers history screen:

Nick Eastwood is a D/WBL with a PA of 196 from 2016/17 season.

Tom Carr is a GK with a PA of 188 from 2014/15

Lee Reynolds plays for Blackburn as a DM and has a PA of 170, he came through the ranks in 2012/13

John Fortune is a Defender who has ended up at my second managers team in the Championship, with a PA of 177 and a CA of 147 he is a first team choice for them at the age of 22. He came through the ranks in 2011/2012.

Jon Roberts is a AML who has also ended up in the championship. Graduating in 2008/2009, his CA of 141 is still some way from his PA of 175.


Steven Hill who has now broken into my first team at the age of 23 has a CA of 162 and a PA of 199! He was a regen from Wolves in 2010/11.



So it would appear that you will produce one player with a reasonable PA (by reasonable I mean above 165) every other season.


The stats on the Regens above are all pretty good for their positions, meaning that my training and loaning must be working.

What was a surprise to me was the number of 130-159 PA players I have produced.

Neji

I disagree, strongly. I have played a game on FM08 up till around 2030 and have had GREAT regens, world beaters in RL terms too. Their natural fitness is the only stat thts seems trouble as it's always low. But regen quality is brilliant.

NepentheZ

Neji - I urge you to look at my last post on this thread. The quality of Regens late in the game, is very, very poor. Perhaps you've been lucky to get good ones, but I've got 3 long term saves, and have discussed the area with friends who have long term saves, and we all agree the quality of players declines as the game goes on.

Cerrano

The problem is, as it was stated, the regens start with terribly low CA's making them very hard to get to reach their potential.

Saivet, Bojan, Sakho, Sankhare, etc. all start with CA's over 100.

Neji

I must have been lucky because in my long term game there was no shortage at all. In FM06 I found this a major problem but was entirely happy with the situation on FM08. I may load up another game on FM08 to generally mess about on so I will take another luck if I get round to it.