mg539

I have only had one long-term game with wolves (10yrs) which was on a large 8.0.0 database (although by the time I stopped I was patched to 8.0.2).

There was certainly plenty of good regens in this game, many of whom I developed myself (often bought at 16/17 on recommendation of scouts). This included a left back with a PA of 198, and many more with PA's over 180. The best of all was an english striker I developed with a CA/PA 185/199 when my chairman accepted a 30M bid for him, 35% of which went to his academy club Middlesborough (I bought him from them at 16/17).

chopper99

I think people are focusing too much on the results given to them by mini scout or some other tool used to show hidden values.

Yes, there are a decent number of regens created in the game who have a high PA. And yes, plenty of these regens get close to their PA and on the face of it are excellent players. But if you forget about PA/CA and just concentrate on what you can see in the game you'll see that there is definitely a problem, namely too many regens with appaling physical stats, a lack of PPM's in the future and far too many regens with the wrong attributes for their position. I've lost count of the number of regen defenders I've seen with high attributes for Free Kicks and Corners. The same goes for wingers with no Acceleration and Pace but but high values in attributes that a winger really doesn't need.

Nomis07

I have 3 newgen defenders with PA over 180, each of then is in the 170's for CA but none of them have over 8 for pace. I'm also yet to see a DM/CM with decent acceleration or pace. All their important stats are there e.g. tackling etc but an 8 for pace puts doubt in your mind about playing them.

Some guy....

So there I am in 2018-19 and it seems that there are some seriously good regens around. Strangly enough the vast majority at this time of players between the ages of 24-30 are regens... Now, there might just be a link with the peak age of players v number of amazing regens, but then again, common sense is so rare it's a superpower.


Roughly around 2013-14 it seemed as if there wasn't enough good regens, and then I thought to myself, does it A: Matter and B: In 2013-14 all regens would have an average age of roughly 22. Now, don't get me wrong, there were some awesome regens around then, but the vast majority of quality was still in real players. Now however... Well here is the list of the 15 players with the highest value in the world (in millions of £s):

1. Bojan -27
2. Robert Ramsay -27[regen]
3. Maxence Getefin -26 [regen]
4. Konstantin Ignatov -25.5 [regen]
5. Peter Palfi - 25 [regen]
6. Roman Datsenko - 24.5 [regen]
7. Alexandre Pato - 24
8. Elia Beghetto - 23.5 [regen]
9. Cristian Barrios - 21 [regen]
10. Mladen Milanovic - 20.5 [regen]
11. Andy Carroll - 20.5
12. Jose Baxter - 19
13. Aguero - 17.5
14. Aquino - 17.5
15. Giovani dos Santos - 17.25

happy slappy

In my old Kilmore Rec game, I got to 2030 and had top youth and training facilities, and every year I got quite a few very good players that were to become very good players for my team and the league as a whole, but this was in N.Ireland so the quality of the league was poor.

Anyway, within a few years these players became so good that I was forced to sell them on to Championship sides because they were becoming unhappy and wanted to move.

So, in my view the regen quality wan't that bad, but this was in a poor league, if it were in a top league then I guess it would be different.

chopper99

Some Guy, again I think you're missing the point slightly.

In my game (2025) there are plenty of players worth very high amounts, and they do have high CA's and on first glance look excellent. But try and find a fast or physical player and you'll struggle. What you will find is plenty of world class looking defenders. But delve a little deeper and you'll find that instead of decent physical atrributes they have 20's for Corners and Free Kicks.

There are also no wonder kids created and the pool of PPM's is pretty much no longer existant.

So while it might seem fine in your game at the moment it will soon get to the point where there are no real players left and you'll not have a decent player under the age of 22 playing for a top team. Admittedly all players are equally poor physically by then so it doesn't matter a great deal. It's still frustrating though and should still be sorted.

Ched

Value is in no way an indication of quality.

It is merely a monetary representation of player reputation. (if you don't believe me, edit a player to have a rep of 1 and a player to have a rep of 1000, leave their CAs etc constant and you will see what i mean)

Must agree with chopper here, as i said previously, the PA and CA of older regens is fine - however, physical stats are dismal and players quite often do not have stats in the right fields - e.g. i've got a CB with 180CA who has tackling 12....
Similarly, as has been said, there just aren't any bojan's or messi's - there are young guys with high PA, but i've seen VERY few 18 year olds who even get "back up" status, due to the slow development of CA - i'm not saying that it should be increased across the board, just that some variation is needed, we want some players who peak at 21 just to add some variation.

Ched

Oh and my current save is entirely regens, so common sense aside, i think i can safely comment on their quality, thank you very much.

toon army 06

i think it is harder to spot talent at 16 to 18 years of age in this game sometimes the scounts don't help i have seen two player i had at a young age who i bought 1 for rangers and 1 for city.i was told they would not be worthwhile siging s now there about 20 and they look good prospects.are the scouts allways right.

Some guy....

So here is samples of regens, current quality real players (They aren't my selection of the best, they're just quality players...) and then quality players at the start.

Here's a download: <a href="http://www.downloadtaxi.com/d/1212669399" target="_blank">Link</a>

However, I do agree that there isn't enough variation in the rate of developement. Though, the overall quality does remain quite constant...