Smokey3957

there was always at least one recommendation by my assman with my new youth intake every year, but after finally improving arsenals youth facilities, the quality of regen has been better than potentially great. two of them could even provide adequate backup for the first team.

personally, i prefer finding gems at lower league clubs and turning them into superstars. i've never been able to do this in england, a few times in spain, but moreso in italy (since fm06).

there have been better quality players produced by lowere league clubs than some premier league clubs irl, so it should be the case in FM. providing that regen development is improved in fm09.

retired_missphitness

I didn't play FM 07 long enough to evaluate regens. Were they as bad in FM 07 as FM 08?

retired_mary43

Wrote a similar post elsewhere: It is possible, but you need the correct players. It vaguely matches the scarcity of youngsters in the world - one or two Messis, lots who will reach 150-160 and tons who are rubbish.

Godfearer

The thing is that i never play in England , you shall see the regens in Belgium , Greece or Norway , after only few years there are not any good domestic players around. Not good enough for the bench i mean.
Often i can only register 17 non national players for European competitions and hope that none gets injured.

When my team has an average PA around 170 i expect my assistant manager to hire youngsters of equal quality.
Ass man is supposed to go around and look for raw talent just like the scouts do , scouters will never point me to a player with PA 120 why should my ass man go and hire such a player?

firefighterhilf

Why is you Ass Man hiring players for you in the game?

By your logic then the top teams should only ever have youngster in their youth teams that are definitely always going to be world class. And the Assistant Managers of these teams should always be able to accurately predict which youngsters will turn into world stars?

As I said earlier there are plenty of aspects of the regen side of the game that can be improved. That being said I don't want it to get to the point where as long as I have top class facilities I'm guarenteed 4 or 5 players every season that will become top class. That's just not realistic in the slightest.

retired_thebug816

The regen quality is slightly off, I have only adequate youth facilities but in iceland, the majority of my regens are coming through at 4 - 5 stars with the potential to be leading players in this league, not just one or two, but the majority and with money coming in from europe and improving facilities, it seems only a matter of time before my youth development is practically producing the players for most teams in the coming years.

retired_mekeesha

Not sure about that being a problem. The star system is the quality of player relative to your squad, which therefore also means relative to your league. I'm guessing here, but wouldn't 'adequate youth facilities' be pretty good in Iceland, therefore you should be producing good youths relative to other Icelandic sides .

So, if you do become a super-club in your league the idea that you'll produce the best youths, the cast-offs whom will populate the lesser Icelandic sides seems reasonable to me.

Godfearer

The youngsters are always hired by the assman, it is a game concept .

A scout can tell if a 17 year old have the potential to be a good player ,why my assistant can not do the same for a 16 year old one?

You didn't understand, not only i am not getting any good players but i also get guys with PA 70, for Zeus shake i have PA 70 !

I think i have to write it again, Academy level 20 = tens of camps around the planet = many thousands of kids = only the best make it to the youth squad = how the hell a CA 40 / PA 70 one managed to pass the door of my training center?

If we took like 500 renegs every year i could accept some crappy ones but since we only get ~10 they have to be at least of some quality.
What a club considers as quality defers by the average PA of their squad.

retired_thebug816

I know what you're getting at handy, but I'm thinking a little bit differently, whilst obviously players from iceland can be as good as players from brazil, italy, spain etc in theory, the fact of the matter is, these players coming through, if they attain their potential (as i've gone to a championship team and scouted them) will go from first team players being suitable to the blue square, to a few players being touted at league 1 level.

So the problem seems to be that regardless of the fact im at a small part time club in iceland, the players who were 16 in the first season, were already outclassed by 16 year olds coming in during the second season.

Odds are with some investment my team will end up dominating this league, and the money from being in europe 2 seasons in a row is funding a lot of growth other teams cant afford.

Obviously, these players coming through will be rarer to be wonderkids than in England & other top countries, but odds are in 10 years or so the future of icelandic football internationally and domestically will probably be my teams cast offs & successes.

retired_thebug816

The youngsters are always hired by the assman, it is a game concept .

A scout can tell if a 17 year old have the potential to be a good player ,why my assistant can not do the same for a 16 year old one?

You didn't understand, not only i am not getting any good players but i also get guys with PA 70, for Zeus shake i have PA 70 !

I think i have to write it again, Academy level 20 = tens of camps around the planet = many thousands of kids = only the best make it to the youth squad = how the hell a CA 40 / PA 70 one managed to pass the door of my training center?

If we took like 500 renegs every year i could accept some crappy ones but since we only get ~10 they have to be at least of some quality.
What a club considers as quality defers by the average PA of their squad. </BLOCKQUOTE>

This is what I'm on about, I've dug out the FMM editor and a lot of my players first team PA is 60 - 80, the regens coming through have PA's of 80 - 100 on the whole part with facilities of 9.

So, how the hell am I producing in mass bulk better regens with worse facilities than the guy above lol