retired_grace4557

This guide is a summary of WWFAN's work in his thread Tactical Theorems and Frameworks '07. Quotes and excerpts have also been taken from Rashidi1's thread and put in to be read easily.
I made this so that people who don't have very much time to read TT&F word for word can scan through this summary and take what's needed for themselves.
It's a summary because i've taken out all lenghty explainations and examples.
For the Full and more in-depth guide go to WWFAN's real thread here: Tactical Theorems & Frameworks 07
And Rashidi1's here:
Effective ways to make a tactic

Types Of Tactics:

Rule Of Two:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>FC & AMC - High Attacking Mentality, Short Passing.
Good Against Attacking AIs.
5 Player Defensive Unit - High pressing. Mixed, Direct Passing.
Keeper - Direct, DC - 2 notches lower, FBs - Lower.
Good Against Defensive AIs.
Solid Against Re-Ranking.
Positions(4-4-2):
More Scoring, Less Defending (Chelsea Style)
Home - Deep Defence, High Pressing
Away - High Defence, Less Pressing
DC - 6
FB - 10
MCd - 8
MR/L - 12
MCa - 16
FC - 14
ST - 18</UL>
Attacking - Raise all by 2
Defensive - Drop all 2, Drop all 4(ultra-defensive)

5x5 Defensive Line:
4-4-2 Solid Defence, Good Offence, Effecting CA (Arsenal Style)
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>Struggles against Ultra-Defensive.
DC, FB, MCd - 5
MR/L, MCa, FC, ST - 15
The split 20 mentality should be kept. (3-17, 7-13)</UL>
D-lines above 14 might be risky.

Split Global:
4-4-2 Safe, Slow-build, risk-free (Bolton Style)
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>DC - 6
FB, MCd, MR/L, MCa - 10
FC, ST - 14
Attacking - Raise by 2-6
Defensive - Drop by 2-6</UL>

Global Mentality:
Everyone Same Mentality.
Short Passing.
Player Quality is important.
Not good against re-ranking. (Mentality shud be raised after a successful season)
Better for Bigger clubs.
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Specialised Tactics:

AI Attacking Strategies:
60-70th min, Opponents go for 4-2-4.
-FBs, DMC, MCd Forward Runs Rarely.
-FCs, AMC Forward Runs Often, MLR Mixed.
AND
-Focus Passing Down Flanks.
-Sarrow FCs.
OR
-Focus Passing Down Mid.
-Wingers Sarrow to Amr/l


AI Defensive Strategies:
When AI goes Ultra-Defensive. 3-3-2-1-1, 4-1-4-1, 4-4-2(no farrows), 4-4-1-1.
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>Wide Formation.
Deep Defensive Line.
Long Farrow (Wingers), Short Farrow (FB).
Forwards Runs. Often: FC, AMC, MLR. Mixed: FBs, DMC. Rarely: DC.
Close Down Often(back 5)
Low Closing Down (&lt; 5 front 3), High CF(15+ front 3, 10 wingers.).</UL>
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Player Instruction:

Mentalities & Player Instuctions:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>DCs - All rarely except Through-balls mixed combined with mixed/direct passing. (if player has good passing & decisions)
FBs - Crossing, Through Balls
DMCs - Long shots, Through Balls, Hold Up Ball.
Wide Players - Forward Runs, Run With Ball, Crossing, Through Balls.
AMCs - Through Balls, Long Shots, Run with ball.
FCs - Through Balls, Hold Up Ball, Everything.
STs - Through Balls, Everything.</UL>
BOLD - Often
Normal - Mixed.
Use these combined with the strategy you are using.


Slider Pairings/Mirroring:
Width vs Time-wasting:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>Home - width 15, Time wasting 5
Away - width 5, Time wasting 15
Should always add to 20.
Attack - raise width, reduce time wasting
Defending - reduce width, add time wasting.</UL>

Creative Freedom vs Closing Down:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>DC - 3/17
FB, MCd - 5/15
ML/R - 10/10
MCa - 15/5
FC - 15/5
This is for home.
Away - All closing down shud be reduced to abt more or less 5 except for DM.
For Defensive players - High Closing down against poor sides, Low against top sides.</UL>

Mentality vs Passing:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>GK: Passing always +2 of DC.
DC: 6/14
FB: 10/10
MCd: 8/12
MR/L: 12/8
MCa: 16/4
FC: 14/6
ST: 18/2
Designed for High Quality sides.
Championship and Lower - Raise all passing by 2. LLM by 4.</UL>

Tempo and Creative Freedom:
For Front three: CF should be same as tempo.
Not very sure, testing is still needed.

Marking:
Tight-Zonal: DCs, FBs, DMC
Loose-Zonal: ML/R, AMC, FCs
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Basic Team Instructions:

Defensive Line:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE> High Defensive Line Should match your most attacking midfielder.
If Using DMC, DL should drop two notches from above.
Suitable For Away
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Low Defensive line important when playing aginst defensive tactics such as 3-3-2-1-1.</UL>

Arrows:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>Based on 4-4-2 diamond:
Ultra Attack: Long farrow MLR, Short farrow FB.
Attack: Long Farrow MLR
Possesion: Short Farrow MLR, Short Barrow AMC.
Defend Lead: Sarrow FCs.</UL>

Focus Passing:
Home: Mixed
Away: Down Both Flanks

Set-Pieces:
ATTACKING:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>Corners into 6-yard box.
Best hearders - attack far, attack near
Rest of players - outside area.
Fullbacks - Back if needed</UL>

DEFENDING:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>Fullbacks - Near and far post
Best Jumpers - Tall players
One ST, One AMC - Stay Forward</UL>

Opposition Instructions:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>This one is entirely my own and seeing that I'm by no means a master tactitian, should be taken lightly.
When you feel that you're being over-run by through-balls and long-passes, here are some things you can do:
Go to your opponents stat screen(home stats, away stats).
See your opponents highest CMP(Pass Completion) players.
Go to opponent instructions and put closing down - always and hard-tackling if you want on those players.
I'm not sure how effective this is as i've not tested it thouroughly but it seemed pretty logical, any feedback is welcome.</UL>

retired_grace4557

ah crap....the formatting sort of didnt work...

retired_grace4557

i think that either this should be closed or i should be let to edit it.

retired_corellian

i have question for you

if i used dmc ( his mentality is 8) when playing home my d-line is 6 when away my d-line should be? the same 6? or 14?

retired_provrb7

Depends what mentality your most attacking midfielder is (your AMC or attacking MC).

retired_corellian

Depends what mentality your most attacking
midfielder is (your AMC or attacking MC). </BLOCKQUOTE>

amc-m16
dmc-m8

home d-line m6
away d-line-?

And one more thing justifield when i playong away should i give my wingers mixed forward runs?

retired_grace4557

haha i typed all of this on wordpad and it looked sweet there.

when i transferred it here.... i think i might re-make this thread dunno if the mods'll be happy haha.

retired_mcwlopez

hmm i have read the entire wwfan tactical theorems thread and i must say well done. but i just have one little bone to pick about defending deep. i play alot of football and was banded around the likes of middlesbrough and newcastle and trained with steven taylor when we were both 15, and the defensive coaches from both clubs alway say you defend deep away from home and high up the pitch when your at home. if you defend deep at home you leave to much space that can be exploited by counter-attck if you move breaks down and you also invite pressure on yourself if your playing deep at home and find your the one has to do the counter attacking. its your patch of land when your at home and so your supposed to take the fight to the oppsoing team. and this is the same theory for the away team who would be playing me. they would love it if they were playing away and we decided to play deep and allow them to have the ball and control the game. having been a defender my self at some clubs who have people who know what they are talkgin about like boro and newcastle, i can categorically state that i have never been told to defend deep at home. and if you put it into wwfan's rule rule of two context then if you play deep, doesnt that mean that there is a greater gap beween your defenders and your attacking players. so if you deepen the defensive line then surely you would have to make your attacking players mentality lower also? which to me doesnt make any sense if your at home. i should also say that i have tried this theory on fm 2007 with middlesbrough and it didnt work. i found that there was too much space to cover when i didnt have the ball and when the opposition had the ball thye had loads of room to nock it about. so i scrapped the deepline at home and now i have just finished my first season with boro and finished fourth, was in the title race until about 5 games ago, i have the best defence in the league conceding only 24 goals about 0.6 per game. and i had about the 4th best attack. the whole idea of the counter attack is to play deep and draw the home team in and then hit them on the break.

Littell_Sam

@mulpetre

what you said makes a lot of sense

might i suggest paragraphing next time though

anyway, I think that wwfan only meant that you should play deep at home when your playing against a very defensive opponent (such as when the AI switches to its 3-3-2-1-1 formation) in order to open up more space for your attacking players. if however you are boro and say playing at home against villa, they arent going to just sit back and absorb the pressure are they, so a higher defensive line in these cases is advisable i think

anyway you seem to have done well enough though finishing 4th with Boro, what kind of set up did you use?

retired_grace4557

hmm mulpetre, i agree with most of what u have said.

no disrespect to you but, i'm pretty sure wwfan did quite a lot of research and testing into his theorems and came up with that.

maybe that's the wonder of fm07, every different game plays out differently and you can choose to approach it differently.

your theory is definitely interesting and makes sense.