retired_diamond_hope

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yes surely this is a big error? after several months a player has got nothing but worse? god this is confusing

RobRock

I'm curious to know if this happens if you start a new game with 8.0.2, but use the 8.0.1 database (I hate having the January transfers included at the start...). I'm going to try it out now (as soon as I get the patch installed) so I'll be back to let you know unless someone beats me to it.

retired_ddtddt

This is a guess:

SI may have modified the player progression model used in 8.0/8.01.
From what I can see a lot of the attribute changes have been happening to players early in their 20's, late in their teens, i.e. those with quite a few years before they hit their full potential.
PA's were reached quite quickly before, so this may be a sign of them just pulling back 20 year olds CAs so that they reach their peak at 28/29 instead of 23 or so.

I hardly think it's a joke, as ultimately it doesn't matter really. If all players are 'dropped' so to speak, then the playing field remains the same relatively speaking.

retired_YourSoFullofIt

I agree with his statement..

retired_monica90

Doubt it very much, as this explanation nails what's going on in my game:
The majority of my squad fit this criteria, and it's them that have declined drastically. My players in their mid-twenties have relatively stable attributes.

retired_graypaladin

There really is no pleasing some people.

"Give me a patch SI!!"
"Where's the patch SI?"
"Gimme, gimme, gimme"

Patch arrives...

10 seconds after it's out, everyone is moaning.

Never mind it being 'demoralising' to have to start a new game, I bet it's demoralising working at SI and listening to people constantly bitch about everything when they can barely have had time to test the new patch!

retired_monica90

It is if you've invested a lot of time in developing a young team over 12-15 seasons only to see the work seemingly undone before your eyes.

vb66

I just looked at the picture, and the picture at the back is actually the game not a screenshot, only the picture in front is a screenshot as it has got the menus. Have you got mixed up, if you have how have you taken a picture of what is happening in the future. Hope I am wrong but I doubt it.

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vb66

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retired_autumnwind.78

Ok folks, I'll tell you exactly what is happening here.

If you are seeing a drop in some of your players' attributes after a short time playing 8.0.2, then its because we have modified the CA-attribute balance slightly. The algorithm we used in FM2008 was less harsh than the one in FM2007, and this was contributing to some of the flaws in the match engine, with an overload on certain types of attacking player. As a result we have modified the algorithm for 8.0.2 to be a halfway point between 7.0.2 and 8.0.1.

To clarify, its not training related, and it has no bearing on player CA progression over time. That doesnt mean progression hasnt been tweaked itself, because it has but that is a separate issue.

Cheers,
Paul

ps The reason you see the red arrows is simply that the game *thinks* training has modified the attributes, but you can ignore the initial red arrows because its down to something else.