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Old 02-15-2008, 02:10 AM   8.0.2 player stats go down like hell Post #31
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yep me too. all my players stats are dropping like a stone. yet another **** up. How was this missed.
Or your training routine was found to be a bug and was improving stats unrealistically in 8.0.1.

It would be interesting to hear how many people who are experiencing stat decline are also seeing lots of injuries. If that is happening across the board, it shouldn't be too dificult to put two and two together.

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Old 02-15-2008, 02:12 AM   8.0.2 player stats go down like hell Post #32
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Originally posted by theboywonder:
try starting a new game rather than your save game. its always advised to start a new game to get the best out of a new patch.

i've started a new game myself, only a few months in but stats havent gone down at all. my training schedules are the default ones and i have done anything with my coaches as i havent been bothered to do this yet.

so far i cant fault the patch...so far.
Same as. Started a new game and having nothing unusual happen. Time will tell with this one i think.

As always, it maybe a case of 'it works for some but not for others'
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Old 02-15-2008, 02:29 AM   8.0.2 player stats go down like hell Post #33
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Another couple of screenshots of players dropping stats dramatically.

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Im sorry, is your game skin name please. Because very nicein dowland
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Old 02-15-2008, 02:36 AM   8.0.2 player stats go down like hell Post #34
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[img=http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3311/sinclairci6.th.jpg]]This[/URL] happened 4 days after installing the patch. Are you guys kidding me? How can I continue to use this guy after this decline? He was better when I bought him so it's not my training that caused his stats to go up unrealistically earlier on as suggested earlier. I have had him in my squad for 3 years and his stats were always the same. He's not the only one to get destroyed in the team but he is the most ridiculous case. I should have read this thread before I decide to install the patch. When will I ever learn to triplecheck everything new from SI? Now I have to lose hours to go back to 8.0.1. Thanks a lot guys!
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Old 02-15-2008, 02:37 AM   8.0.2 player stats go down like hell Post #35
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Thank god I read this thread.

Was goign to continue with my save game, but might not do it now...
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Old 02-15-2008, 02:39 AM   8.0.2 player stats go down like hell Post #36
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Originally posted by theboywonder:
try starting a new game rather than your save game. its always advised to start a new game to get the best out of a new patch.

i've started a new game myself, only a few months in but stats havent gone down at all. my training schedules are the default ones and i have done anything with my coaches as i havent been bothered to do this yet.

so far i cant fault the patch...so far.
so your simply telling a clan to start a new game after it has done 6 seasons??? lol....
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Old 02-15-2008, 02:52 AM   8.0.2 player stats go down like hell Post #37
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two weeks in and marin, piatti, mata, stancu, ustari and torje have followed suit

Was really enjoying my game and had just got derby into the champions league but doubt i'll even continue playing if this shambles keeps up
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Old 02-15-2008, 02:54 AM   8.0.2 player stats go down like hell Post #38
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This might be a bug or it might be that the CA model has been tweaked again. In the game CA acts as an anchor in limiting how high attributes can go. If this is working as intended then it means that SI felt the anchor in 8.01 and previous versions wasn't heavy enough. So they've tweaked the effect of training in allowing increases in attributes solely due to training effects within a given CA. By this I don't mean the effect of increasing CA via training, rather the effect of training in getting more attribute points for a given, fixed CA.

So for example if on your current training scheme your Striker has a CA of 160 and a finishing attribute of 19. If that training scheme deviates from the standard 'maintain attributes' level in the default General training scheme then the 19 he has in finishing is less to do with his natural finishing attribute relative to his current CA and attribute distribution, and more to do with your training scheme getting more bang for your buck out of that player's CA. So if SI tweaked this effect in 8.02 you would see a rapid drop in attributes because the variables that relate CA to attributes and the effect of training on this model have been toned down. Thus the calculation is adjusting the outputs based on this change in controlling variables, resulting in player attributes dropping.

This is why players starting new games are not seeing the same drops in attributes as those continuing save games.

Of course if players using the default training levels in continued save games are also seeing these drops in attributes then that does blow my explanation out of the water
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:01 AM   8.0.2 player stats go down like hell Post #39
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I'd be interested in seeing that too, are the people reporting it on custom schedules?
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:09 AM   8.0.2 player stats go down like hell Post #40
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i,m on default schedules and its happened to me
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