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Old 02-18-2008, 06:34 PM   I'm getting frustrated with this game.... Post #11
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Well the problem mentioned here has a simple fix:

Allow for the change of league reputation.


There is currently no reason for this stat to remain fixed. Leagues certainly don't remain fixed in strength.

Would anyone currently doubt that Spain, England and Italy are the strongest leagues in the world? Certain leagues like the French and German league would once have been strong as well, but currently wouldn't be_as_strong, not saying they're weak, just not as strong.

If, for example, a team like Lyon were to win the Champions League every year for 5 years or so (not impossible in the game ) the co-efficient for France would go up or whatever it does, giving the French more spots in European competition, giving more money and recognition. Additionally, this would strengthen the clubs getting the extra European football and money, allowing the league structure as a whole become more highly regarded, and thus, more attractive to footballers.

So... Let us change the league rep.
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Old 02-18-2008, 06:39 PM   I'm getting frustrated with this game.... Post #12
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I was under the impression that, as my team rep grew, other teams would strive to match me. But in 13 seasons I've been a Pro team, not one other team in the division has matched this ambition, and they are all Semi-Pro still.
If they did turn professional and bought decent defenders ... it would then be more difficult for you to reach the 1000 goals (i.e. Pele challenge).

As for getting the other team to profit and professional status ... this still won't fix the reputation problem though will it? I'm afraid your only option is to change this in the editor before you start a new game.
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Old 02-18-2008, 06:40 PM   I'm getting frustrated with this game.... Post #13
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There's an inbuilt anti-bias towards celts...it's deliberate, after all the lads producing the game are english..... :p
Actually, some of them are Scottish (in fact most of them I remember).
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:07 PM   I'm getting frustrated with this game.... Post #14
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by NepentheZ:
I was under the impression that, as my team rep grew, other teams would strive to match me. But in 13 seasons I've been a Pro team, not one other team in the division has matched this ambition, and they are all Semi-Pro still.
If they did turn professional and bought decent defenders ... it would then be more difficult for you to reach the 1000 goals (i.e. Pele challenge).

As for getting the other team to profit and professional status ... this still won't fix the reputation problem though will it? I'm afraid your only option is to change this in the editor before you start a new game. </BLOCKQUOTE>

By the time that happens, He will be long retired.

(or at least, I hope so.!!)
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:07 PM   I'm getting frustrated with this game.... Post #15
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I feel sorry for you as you've obviously worked hard in this career and now feel like you are hitting a brick wall.

I hate to do this, but as many people are obsessed with on these forums, it is more 'realistic' to have your situation than not. If it were more of a 'game' then by now you could and maybe should be looking at signing big name players.

Thing is, you are playing in a low reputaion league. Even playing for Palace or whoever offers a better chance to be noticed by a bigger club than if they stay in N. Ireland.

Take Rosenburg as an example. Dominated their league for years but although they had players good enough to get them noticed in the champions league, you couldn't have imagined really big name players going there could you?

Also I saw the Russian league mentioned as another example. The difference there is the amount of money being pumped into that league. Unfortunately money talks and players will be tempted by big wages.

As for lack of decent players later in games, I've seen that from the earliest Champ Man games. Remember on the Amiga in the good ol' days, needed a defender about ten years on in the game, the only worthwhile one around was an aging Ian Pearce. Great.
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Old 02-18-2008, 08:26 PM   I'm getting frustrated with this game.... Post #16
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Glad you feel my pain too neil.!!
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Old 02-18-2008, 08:36 PM   I'm getting frustrated with this game.... Post #17
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Having read this thread, I have to agree... allow the league rep to change! I thought it was possible for this to happen to be honest... makes sense?

For European leagues, surely league rep should just be linked to UEFA Coefficients. This would be really simply to implement I would have thought, and is fairly accurate.
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Old 02-18-2008, 09:09 PM   I'm getting frustrated with this game.... Post #18
 
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I would NEVER usually condone this, but have you considered using FMM to give the Norn Irish league a boost in rep?

I know for a fact (being a Linfield fanatic) that the quality of the Carnegie Irish League has been improving for years. Teams like Dungannon Swifts, Ballymena, Newry, Distillery and especially Cliftonville have really progressed over the last couple of seasons.

If Linfield were to consistently get to the group stages of the Champions League, apart from being battered 90% of the time, the rep of Northern Ireland football would increase. Also, see the recent improvements of our national team, Berbatov recently said after playing us in a friendly that we were a good team, and we came within a 90 minutes of qualifying for the Euros.
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Old 02-18-2008, 09:17 PM   I'm getting frustrated with this game.... Post #19
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I would NEVER usually condone this, but have you considered using FMM to give the Norn Irish league a boost in rep?

I know for a fact (being a Linfield fanatic) that the quality of the Carnegie Irish League has been improving for years. Teams like Dungannon Swifts, Ballymena, Newry, Distillery and especially Cliftonville have really progressed over the last couple of seasons.

If Linfield were to consistently get to the group stages of the Champions League, apart from being battered 90% of the time, the rep of Northern Ireland football would increase. Also, see the recent improvements of our national team, Berbatov recently said after playing us in a friendly that we were a good team, and we came within a 90 minutes of qualifying for the Euros.
I've never used such a program, and never will.

Also, It's harder to come by them on a mac. (But thats besides the point)
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Old 02-18-2008, 09:23 PM   I'm getting frustrated with this game.... Post #20
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Jase1982:
In order for the rep to change would the nation not have to do well, as opposed to the individual club?

This is all reality....you're playing in N.Ireland so it's perfectly acceptable for your players to want to move on and winning the N.Ireland league and cups is probably ranked extremely low on the radar of things to win in the whole FM world....personally I enjoy adding several leagues and trying to lead a smaller team to greatness...if you get bored with the N.Ireland team, just jump ship to another league.
Yea, all the reps are combined, I understand that, but after 20 years, and the fact that I do get CL football, and my Manager Description is "Legendary Manager" surely that would have a big effect on players wanting to play for me?

Even young players, as a stepping stone, refuse to use my club, although it would be a great platform for them.

IRL, If a team from N. Ireland got to the CL Group stages, it would do wonders for the league, and the impact on such a small nation would be cataclysmic. Let alone doing it several times.

My only real example is CSKA Moscow. They got regular CL football, and now the team is flooded with amazing players. In turn, the league is becoming more recognized globally.... </BLOCKQUOTE>

players might want to play for you.
but do they really want to play in a league that is simply not competitive enough for them? if they harbour any desire to play for their club then their going to have to play in a league that is of a high enough quality.

you wouldn't go to the malaysian league structure from english football if you wanted to improve your self as a footballer and possibly play for your country. no matter if alex ferguson was managing pahang he'd still struggle to get the top players.
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