Joor

Freerole..I know this is hidden attribute, but how will a player 1 in freerole play with this option on ?
Gourcuff, in my milan squad have 1, but when I set him on freerole he moves around alot more without the ball when we attack - this is very hard to defend against and it feels like he got 20 off the ball
He actually plays better than Kaka with this on - even tho kaka got 20 in freerole!? . So the hidden freerole isnt important ?
When I look at teamwork, kaka got 12 but Gourcuff have 18. I think teamwork means how often a player will move in space for other teammates giving them more passing option ?
This is something I notice with Gattuso who got 20 teamwork - he always move in space to help my ball carier..
What about the off the ball attribute ?
Kaka got 16, Gourcuff 15 and Gattuso 13, but its not Kaka who moves more without the ball - its actually Gattuso.

Im not sure..but in 8.0.2 teamwork looks like its a vital stat for the player movement without the ball. Anyone else notice this ?

Joor

So is it just me who think freerole attribute is a irrelevant stat - just like Height and Weight have no effect?

Law_Man

I generally tend to leave free role alone unless I'm using an AMC and then I might play around with it, so must of the time it doesn't bother me.

The one thing I would say is that from what I can tell if you put certain forwards on a free role then it will make them drop a little deeper - I assume that this must mean that they've got a decent free role score but I don't use FM to check so I don't know. Perhaps you could look into this.

Law_Man

ps I thought height (at least) had some impact now? So that if two players had the same jumping, bravery etc then the taller player would win more often than not?

Cleon

T'is true

Hawshiels

I use the free role quite a lot in my tactics. I have it switched on for the AML/Rs and the AMC. What I've noticed (especially in 8.0.2) is that the free role works much more effectively now if you have a player with high teamwork.

My understanding of how this works is that the free role attribute determines how far outwith the 'normal' position a player can roam. And the teamwork attribute determines how likely he is to roam far (up to this position within the circumference) to help the team by moving into space.

I doesn't take a very high free role rating for a player to be effective - providing they do it often enough - hence the real importance of the teamwork value.

In FM08 I started to take decision-making and composure much more seriously than in previous versions of the game. In 8.0.2, it seems the effects of team work, positioning, flair and acceleration are now changed (slightly but causing big changes in effect) so they are now more important than ever if relevant to the tactics in your team.