Philco

The selling part isn't a prolem. I have had 10m bids for Foster who's calued 3.5m The problem for me is that the other clubs seem to get players a lot cheaper than me.
When frey goes for 15m to Milan but is rejected when I offer 35m. That is just something I do not understand....
It seems clubs are more inclined to sell players to Arsenal, ManCity, Liverpool, Tottenham, Pompey, Milan, Inter, Juve, Barca, Real, well most clubs in fact than ManUtd.
I mean, the cheapest I could get Ochoa, who's valued 1.2 was 15m. And that deal got canceled without explination (which is a cool, but frustrating feature)

And ackter, I understand that, but instead of repeating that phrase all the time, how about you give us an alternative sollution eh?

circlewalker

I don't know what the alternative solution would be - but it's important to addresss the human vs AI aspect as a lot of people love to think that they're being cheated.

Philco

I'm gonna level with ya. Losing out on lower bids on the same day, that kind feels like being cheated.

circlewalker

I realise it feels that way, but it's important to remember that you're not being cheated.

The only way to get this issue seen to is to have save games from just before both bids are put in - that way SI can run the save game through their machines and see exactly why the bids are being accepted/rejected.

dejasade

i've often wondered about this thing about sending games in just before bids have been put in.
because when ive seen two bids put in i save and reload the previous save and the bids dont get put in.

it's the same when i kept saying that my ass. man keeps telling me that i should sell steven gerrard.
i get told to send the save in just before the message appears (someone enquiring about him) but when i reload the game the team dont enquire.
so how can you gurantee that it would happen the second time?

circlewalker

You can't, but if you try it yourselves a few times before uploading you can see how likely it is to reoccur.

If you manage to get a save game a "continue" before it happens then the reocurring rate is usually quite high.

retired_gwenlyn

Ackter: I agree there is no 'AI hates humans' agenda, but you are experienced in playing this game and you must know that there is something really wrong with the transfer system. Players do move between AI clubs much more cheaply than when dealing with the human player. I do accept that there will be instances where a club will just set the price very high if they do not want to sell him to a rival club, etc, but in the situations where this is not an issue, there is still a huge gulf in the signings of the AI to the signings of the human player. This is something that we've all put up with because it's been around for a few years now - but that doesn't make it right.

There was an excellent thread about this recently "Critique of the transfer system" which detailed this issue so I'm hoping someone at SI takes notice of its content before FM09 comes out.

retired_janethompson177

I had to spend more than 130m dollars for Kaka and Silva...Also when I tried to buy Aguero ATM asked me for about 300M dollars. Next year some team offer ATM about 73M, so I offered 74M and got aguero. I dont think this is fair!

retired_janethompson177

Also When I tried to buy Zlatan(28) they offered me 367M dollars more than 3 times Zidane's transfer fee...

retired_omid

There might be a possible solution.

Say you were playing as Arsenal and you were after Ronaldo from Man Utd. Chelsea put in a bid of say £40 million which was accepted. There could be a button which says match bid. This way you know that you are bidding the same amount, plus clauses etc.

The response from the selling club could be that they accept it, or that although they realsie it is the same bid, they will reject it for various reasons, ie rival club, bad relationship etc.

I see the problem here as two fold. 1, we as human players don't sometimes know the exact offer an AI managed team has made, it will sometimes say 5m + clauses (those clauses could be anything), and 2, there is still not enough feedback as to the reasons our, seemingly same, transfer offers are rejected.