retired_jmaharry

That's not the point. The problem is that the AI teams don't accept your offer FIRST, not another AI offer. Suppose your team is the only one interested in a player? Then what? Do we have to pay 5 times as much because no-one else is bidding for him?

And this has happened on my game many times. Just recently I attempted to sign Criscito from Real Madrid (I am with Inter) for 26m. The offer was rejected. Merely 2 weeks later he was bought by AC Milan for only 15m. Clearly there is something wrong, and as you can see, there were no rivalries or any other issues that may have affected the transfer. </BLOCKQUOTE>

It is the point.

If you scout a player say weekly. You wil notice the price they want will vary dramatically.

It usually involves contract renewals etc. You just have to be on the ball to get the best prices.

Philco

I found this quite troublesome. I see Arsenal buying Ezquiel Garay for 6m, Bale for 11, Moutinho for 10 and Berbatov for 13. Meanwhile I was already rejected with the following:

Garay: 16m + 50% clause
Bale: 15m
Moutinho: 20m
Berbatov: 32m

or even worse. Fiorentina refused my 35m bid for Frey but easily sold him to bloody Milan for 15.....

Honestly, what the hell?

I'm finding it extremely hard to keep United in the top, Giggs becomes poor after a season, and scholes starts to fail at the same time. Neville slows down a lot. Rooney and Tevez doesn't seem to get along as they never score.
Also, howcome Tottenham has 150m to shop for after a season? They finished like.. 16th, no euro cup play, no nothing. Yet they still have lots of money...

And I know Arsenal are good, but no way in hell are they this good. Eduardo is untouchable, Adebayor scores more than bloody zlatan and Bendtner seems to be the real white pele...

Just venting my frustration...

circlewalker

It's all about timing.

Philco

My point with united is that I have 40m to shop for. Tottenham demands 47 for Berbatov, Sevilla wants 66m for Alves, Atletico demands 100m for Agüreo (someone told me he was cheap, liars)
and 30m for Bale. A good replacement for Scholes would easily cost me 50m with these prices, and for giggs, well let's just say the cheapest semi decent replacement I found would cost me bloody 25m. this for a player who won't become any better than "Gigg's current level"

Seriously someone please explain to me what's going on.....

Philco

... Milan bid 15 the same bloody day I bid 35. Yet they reject mine and accept theirs. How is that about timing? same with bloody berbatov.

retired_dancingneko

No it isn't all about timing. There's a problem, and timing only helps a little. Please don't say you don't see the disparity because then SI will be less likely to fix it.

Check out Canabary's post above, that's my typical experience too.

circlewalker

1. you can't see the total of what AI teams are offering so you don't know exactly how much they are
2. manager and club relationships can be deal breakers in this.
3. the values an AI manager will accept for a player are the same (except for instances of 2.).

They'll want 30m for example, then depending on things like manager and club relationships (are you friendly with them? are you in the same league? are you in direct competition? etc) the number will change.

There's problems with how AI value players imo, but they don't favour AI teams just because they're AI teams.

Philco

The bid was 15m no clauses no nothing.
My bid was 35m.

Milan is in the same league as Fiorentina, I'm not
Fiorentina did not qualify for ECC, I did, therefore I'm not a threat to them.
Ancelotti and the fiorentina manager aren't exactly friends.
And no the values are mostly never the same, as I tried to bid 15m afterwards, but noo rejected.

City offer 11.5m for bale, I offer 15 to secure the deal. I get told to f**k off while Tottenham's bid is accepted.
I highly doubt Eriksson and Ramos are best buds.

Moutinho, I offer 20, get rejected. Liverpool and City offer 10. theirs get accepted.

retired_AROSS

It all depends on the player. I've got Christian Zapata on my team (Arsenal) and either Barcelona or Real Madrid approached submitted a bid worth his value, around £11.25m. I upped the price to £20m and they came back with that. I still declined as Zapata, but the point is, you can sell players for more than they are worth.

Take a look at who you are bidding for. You're after marquee players in their prime. Your best bet is to try to unsettle the players enough that the club has to sell that (player interaction and bid after bid) You can find replacement that are good enough. And it is more than just the attributes on the screen.

Bid on younger players with promise. If they don't pan out, it was better to spend £5m on a him than £20m+ on a player that might be good, but also has an equal shot of not fitting into your team.

Offer contracts to players on expiring deals. Easily the best way to upgrade your squad if it is the right year. At the beginning of each season, look for players with expiring deals and state your interest. Come January, offer them deals and keep offering until they sign with someone.

circlewalker

There's no "is manager human: [yes/no]" aspect to the code. The reason for that happening will not be that you are human.