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02-17-2008, 01:24 PM
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How come the computer only bids what a player is 'worth', whilst as a human player I have to bid approximately 6 times more?? Post #11 | | Registered User
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Originally posted by megafan2005:
not ture actually real madrid in my QPR game payed £53M for Montolivio and then £58M on Karim Benzema
| I think this is where the main problem lies.
I don't think any team, AI or human, should be paying that kind of money for players.
I feel that the algorithm for calculating player values and what the AI pays/expects to receive for players is not very balanced and needs some work.
If players are being bought for those values at the higher end of the market, it surely has an impact of inflating prices in general as it slides down the scale.
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02-17-2008, 02:58 PM
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How come the computer only bids what a player is 'worth', whilst as a human player I have to bid approximately 6 times more?? Post #12 | | Registered User
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Originally posted by Liamoville:
You've got to remember .... say if the computer bids for a player and it is accepted. The computer will always accept your offer of that price to.
| That's not the point. The problem is that the AI teams don't accept your offer FIRST, not another AI offer. Suppose your team is the only one interested in a player? Then what? Do we have to pay 5 times as much because no-one else is bidding for him?
And this has happened on my game many times. Just recently I attempted to sign Criscito from Real Madrid (I am with Inter) for 26m. The offer was rejected. Merely 2 weeks later he was bought by AC Milan for only 15m. Clearly there is something wrong, and as you can see, there were no rivalries or any other issues that may have affected the transfer.
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02-17-2008, 03:20 PM
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How come the computer only bids what a player is 'worth', whilst as a human player I have to bid approximately 6 times more?? Post #13 | | Registered User
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I've bought plenty of pplayers for below their actual value
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02-17-2008, 04:00 PM
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How come the computer only bids what a player is 'worth', whilst as a human player I have to bid approximately 6 times more?? Post #14 | | Newb
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Originally posted by Liamoville:
You've got to remember .... say if the computer bids for a player and it is accepted. The computer will always accept your offer of that price to.
| Most of the time I try to do that the other club re-negotiates the deal ie: screws me, asking for more money and a % of the next sale. I think the transfers need to be re evaluated for FM 09.
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02-17-2008, 04:06 PM
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How come the computer only bids what a player is 'worth', whilst as a human player I have to bid approximately 6 times more?? Post #15 | | Registered User
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Originally posted by Liamoville:
You've got to remember .... say if the computer bids for a player and it is accepted. The computer will always accept your offer of that price to.
| No it won't, Newcastle had a £19 million bid for Mascherano accepted on my game, but my bids kept being rejected of £19million. Happened with another player but I forget who it was.
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02-17-2008, 04:10 PM
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How come the computer only bids what a player is 'worth', whilst as a human player I have to bid approximately 6 times more?? Post #16 | | Registered User
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Originally posted by Minez01:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Liamoville:
You've got to remember .... say if the computer bids for a player and it is accepted. The computer will always accept your offer of that price to.
| That's not the point. The problem is that the AI teams don't accept your offer FIRST, not another AI offer. Suppose your team is the only one interested in a player? Then what? Do we have to pay 5 times as much because no-one else is bidding for him?
And this has happened on my game many times. Just recently I attempted to sign Criscito from Real Madrid (I am with Inter) for 26m. The offer was rejected. Merely 2 weeks later he was bought by AC Milan for only 15m. Clearly there is something wrong, and as you can see, there were no rivalries or any other issues that may have affected the transfer. </BLOCKQUOTE>
Well actually i find this isnt the case, for example Lee Cook was valued at 2 million but I made a bid of £0 and had it accepted. It depends on how important to the team the player is and the financial situation of the club, for example i often go to the job screen and then list clubs by financial situation and then go to decent clubs and buy there players for knock down prices as they need the money and the chairman will allways accept, just like when leeds sold all there players for bugger all.
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02-17-2008, 04:16 PM
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How come the computer only bids what a player is 'worth', whilst as a human player I have to bid approximately 6 times more?? Post #17 | | Registered User
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when you have man city buying almunia for £11.75mill in my game and micah riards going to ac milan for 35mill i dont think they only pay what the player is worth.
i've also sold sissoko to newcastle for 15mill when he was nearer 5mill and crouch for 12mill when he's more 7mill
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02-17-2008, 04:24 PM
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How come the computer only bids what a player is 'worth', whilst as a human player I have to bid approximately 6 times more?? Post #18 | | Registered User
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i always get bids accepted when matching an AI bids accepted bid.
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02-17-2008, 05:07 PM
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How come the computer only bids what a player is 'worth', whilst as a human player I have to bid approximately 6 times more?? Post #19 | | Warming Up
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Originally posted by postal postie:
i always get bids accepted when matching an AI bids accepted bid.
| I don't. It is a problem. So is the sale value for most players in the game.
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02-17-2008, 05:17 PM
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How come the computer only bids what a player is 'worth', whilst as a human player I have to bid approximately 6 times more?? Post #20 | | Newb
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Negotiating with the AI will get you nowhere.
I remember bidding for a player worth 7m. The highest I would go is 12m. So they came back with the same 19m price tag to take the player after trying to get him for 12m. It was back and forth with me changing to 12m and them coming back with 19m. So I just gave up and withdrew.
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