Plans to include USL1 & USL2 (America)

mistersimon · 02-17-2008, 01:26 PM

Is there been any plans to add USL First Division in America ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USL_First_Division )

It is the next division below the MLS then it's the USL 2...

Apologies if this has been asked before but it would be awesome if this league was introduced into the American leagues.

bigbelly · 02-17-2008, 02:26 PM

I'd say it's about 99% certain they'll NEVER be included into the game.

The reason being that they have no promotion/relegation into the MLS, and as a result of this are rendered pretty much redundant.

Also, the USL and MLS are essentially rival leagues. Both are overseen by USA Soccer (The American FA) but operated seperately.

I'd love to clarify that with an example from elsewhere... but I can't think of anything right now...

retired_lil125 · 02-17-2008, 09:55 PM

thanks for the constructive feedback.

I understand, never knew they were rivals actually.

train · 02-17-2008, 10:02 PM

So MLS teams don't have relegation or promotion? :eek:

Wow. I've never entertained myself in the MLS, it seems to complicated from what the board says, but having no Relegation must give you great comfort

retired_samiam · 02-17-2008, 10:06 PM

It's like darts - there's the BDO (British Darts Organistion) and the Professional Darts Corporation (PDC). Two rival companies.

Just imagine there's the English Premier League with 10 teams in it, and a separate English Supreme League with another 10 teams in.

They operate separately and have no promotion/relegation to each other.

Perhaps if you take rugby as a whole as 1 sport, then you could (loosely) compare it to Rugby Union and Rugby League - two different entities that have no promotion/relegation to each other.

In my opinion, it's a shame for any sport that has competing factions. I think the sport would benefit from having them all under 1 roof, so to speak. It would create more interest, more big games, and wouldn't divide the fans. As another example, you could use the sport (or entertainment?) of wrestling back in the 1990's, when you had WWF, WCW and ECW. Fans were divided. The way that sport is run is slightly different, so comparisons can't be totally made, but in my opinion, America having two separate league operators is not helping the sport over there.

Having said all that.......

If the MLS is included in FM, then perhaps a case could be made for the other league to be as well.

retired_thesma789 · 02-17-2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by NepentheZ:
So MLS teams don't have relegation or promotion? :eek:

Wow. I've never entertained myself in the MLS, it seems to complicated from what the board says, but having no Relegation must give you great comfort

It's not that comfortable when the board demands you to win the MLS every 2 years

retired_STRIDER · 02-17-2008, 10:28 PM

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America having two separate league operators is not helping the sport over there.

But it's really not hurting it, either, since promotion/relegation is non-existent in our sports. As a result, no one knows any different.

For us, competing leagues is just a fact of life - it's all we know. Whoever provides the better product is the one we all naturally follow - leaving the others to seize-up and die(or merge with the bigger league, if they're lucky).

As for the original topic,

I don't want to see the USL yet. Before I ask for more American leagues, I want to see proof that SI even care enough about our leagues to include them correctly.

retired_nodyaj1118 · 02-18-2008, 02:35 AM

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Originally posted by B. Stinson:
<BLOCKQUOTE>America having two separate league operators is not helping the sport over there.

But it's really not hurting it, either, since promotion/relegation is non-existent in our sports. As a result, no one knows any different.

For us, competing leagues is just a fact of life - it's all we know. Whoever provides the better product is the one we all naturally follow - leaving the others to seize-up and die(or merge with the bigger league, if they're lucky).

As for the original topic,

I don't want to see the USL yet. Before I ask for more American leagues, I want to see proof that SI even care enough about our leagues to include them correctly. </BLOCKQUOTE>

It really doesn't matter here. I love football but I had actually no idea about the existence of this league. And in fact I have seen only games involving DC United (because of Adu) LA (because of Beckam) and NY (I live close and these games are broadcast.

In fact that is the problem most games you cannot see on National TV only local. And also SportCenter a 1 hr daily show talks about 2 minutes about the results and that is only when the season is on.

So I apologize if I am rude but the FM sales in US are possibly explained by the immigrants like me that do not play that league anyway.