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Old 02-15-2008, 02:48 PM   SI have rushed this patch Post #31
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Its not unreaslistic to get high scoring games, just look whats happend this season already in the real league.

Man utd 6-0 Newcastle
Wigan 5-3 Blackburn
Man city 4-2 Bolton
Tottenham 5-1 Fulham
Tottenham 6-4 Reading
Everton 7-1 Sunderlamd
Derby 0-5 West ham
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Old 02-15-2008, 02:49 PM   SI have rushed this patch Post #32
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IS anybody surprised if they have rushed it?

There is 2/3 threads a day asking when the patch is out for god sake.

You all moan when you dont have it, and then kick up a fuss about it when you do have it

Calm the hell down with your complaining about SI, if they have done such a bad job, go make your own ****ing game and see if thats perfect, its not all easy you know

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Old 02-15-2008, 02:50 PM   SI have rushed this patch Post #33
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Originally posted by Liverpool Rule---Jehrome:
IS anybody surprised if they have rushed it?

There is 2/3 threads a day asking when the patch is out for god sake.

You all moan when you dont have it, and then kick up a fuss about it when you do have it

Calm the hell down with your complaining about SI, if they have done such a bad job, go make your own ****ing game and see if thats perfect, its not all easy you know

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I think SI employ a much more professional way of dealing with criticism
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Old 02-15-2008, 02:51 PM   SI have rushed this patch Post #34
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Quote:
Originally posted by Liverpool Rule---Jehrome:
IS anybody surprised if they have rushed it?

There is 2/3 threads a day asking when the patch is out for god sake.

You all moan when you dont have it, and then kick up a fuss about it when you do have it

Calm the hell down with your complaining about SI, if they have done such a bad job, go make your own ****ing game and see if thats perfect, its not all easy you know

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Old 02-15-2008, 02:56 PM   SI have rushed this patch Post #35
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only the three games for me all pre season

8-0
1-1
5-0

so i'm happy with it
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Old 02-15-2008, 02:56 PM   SI have rushed this patch Post #36
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Quote:
Originally posted by Beevster:
Its not unreaslistic to get high scoring games, just look whats happend this season already in the real league.

Man utd 6-0 Newcastle
Wigan 5-3 Blackburn
Man city 4-2 Bolton
Tottenham 5-1 Fulham
Tottenham 6-4 Reading
Everton 7-1 Sunderlamd
Derby 0-5 West ham

why do people think they possess superior intelligence and righteousness above all when they compare a handful of games spread out over 20+ rounds to the high scoring that is happening in every round in fm08?
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:00 PM   SI have rushed this patch Post #37
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Originally posted by Liverpool Rule---Jehrome:
IS anybody surprised if they have rushed it?

There is 2/3 threads a day asking when the patch is out for god sake.
that's why those people should all be banned!

But I doubt those posters will have affected the patch's release date or readiness tbf.
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:05 PM   SI have rushed this patch Post #38
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Quote:
Originally posted by Nostromo:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Beevster:
Its not unreaslistic to get high scoring games, just look whats happend this season already in the real league.

Man utd 6-0 Newcastle
Wigan 5-3 Blackburn
Man city 4-2 Bolton
Tottenham 5-1 Fulham
Tottenham 6-4 Reading
Everton 7-1 Sunderlamd
Derby 0-5 West ham

why do people think they possess superior intelligence and righteousness above all when they compare a handful of games spread out over 20+ rounds to the high scoring that is happening in every round in fm08? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmm...maybe because that is exactly the type of statistics people are dredging up about FM08. No-one has yet had the wit or common sense to post proper stats for a whole season.

Scanning up the thread, someone pulled out 3 examples of high scoring games and was told he had given a "perfect example", others have shown similar "analysis" or posted a screenshot of 1 matchday.

You can always make statistics back up your point of view if you just select those which do back up your view and ignore all the rest. There are something like 380 games played in a Premier League season. If people want to be taken seriously then give some proper statistics on what happened in the other 377 instead of just 3 high scoring games that you picked out!
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:06 PM   SI have rushed this patch Post #39
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Time to put science know how to work!

Glamdring and Ackter are spot on about not being able to use a handful of picked games as evidence and the amount you'd need for statistical significance.

If anyone has the time and patience this is what should be done for a true experiment on the matter.

Run two games. Both just running the premier leage with full detail, no managers*. One of the games is 8.0.1 and one is 8.0.2

At the end of the season the goals scored can be compared to get some real evidence. That said, you also have to choose how you're going to go about the goal counting. Do you count the total goals and compare it like that or just count the number of matches that have higher than average scores.

If you go for the later you then have to define what is a higher than average score.

Once you've gone through all that, zipped the results through a stats package like spss, then you can start claiming what you've found is evidence. And even then it is limited only to 1 season in the premiership without human intervention.



*All game settings would have to be the same, and would have to be run on the same computer too.
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:14 PM   SI have rushed this patch Post #40
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You dont need to be a rocket scientist to see that a HUGE leap has been made in the results pre 8.0.2 and now post...I have just played about dozen of games and an average goal ration has been increased dramaticlly.

You can notice that your strikers score more one on ones than before which is great but now my main SC has scored about 15-20 goals in those dozen games which will lead to 100+ goals per season for great strikers what once more is NOT very realistic
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