Ched

Having recently installed 8.0.2 i was determined to enjoy it.

Generally this has been the case, corners work, defenders are marginally more intelligent, shots are reduced and finishing appears to be improved. (just don't get me started on IFKs which seem to have been ruined...)

However, due to the fact i normally play 4-5-1/4-3-3 i noticed a quite large issue.

If i play a lone striker, with an AMC, the striker constantly moves to the FL position, whilst the AMC constantly moves to a slightly reduced FR position.

The reason i want to play 4-5-1 is so my striker plays BETWEEN the two CBs (in theory creating confusion over who's marking him etc) and the AMC plays through the middle between the CBS and DM/CM in order to take advantage of space created by the above mentioned forward, fairly straight forward and logical IMO.

Unfortunately SI don't seem to agree that this is how it works. FM seems to think that a lone forward clearly has some overwhelming desire to play as a left sided forward, making the marking of said forward very straight forward.

I've had this problem with 3 teams (chelsea, everton and athletico madrid) although the latter 2 were just to see if the problem was limited to drogbas incompetance, and as such only 6 games were played with each.

I'm writing this in the hope that i've overlooked something glaringly simple and other users of 4-5-1 have found a solution.

I really wanted to enjoy this game after the patch, but my teams complete lack of willingness to follow orders is irritating. I'm not expecting a response from SI, as i'm sure they have no intent of producing an 8.0.3, i'm just hoping that someone has found another work around...

DJW1979

Is it possible that the match engine has been improved to work round your magnificent tactic. IE one centre back says to the other, I'll mark him?

andyinuk

interesting. have you tried this out with different forwards too? maybe there is a PPM which make your forward move to the side rather than stay at the centre?

i wanted to set up a 4-5-1 system soon because of lack of good strikers in my squad. so if there is a problem in the game regarding playing lone striker then i will have to rethink the tactics

Luiz Hemerly

i play 3-6-1, and that doesnt happen to me... maybe is your creativity freedom or some ppm?

Ched

One of the fixes was apparently to make a lone forward easier to mark - i thought this would make the CBs follow him, alas he just follows the right sided CB.

I've used drogba, anelka, yakubu, johnson, aguero, forlan and guilherme - they all move left.

I love 4-5-1 as it saves money on forwards for one thing, but it just doesn't seem to work that well - 4-4-2 (which i normally avoid) works fine, it's quite annoying.

Ched

I hoped that CF would make the forward move around a fair bit (i.e. left and right in order to confuse CBs) but he just sits in the one position.

I will do some more tinkering with CF and see if that fixes anything.

mallen102000

I've gott a 4-5-2 working, my Barce side sit top of la liga unbeaten at half way stage and going well in all other competitions, we don't score many but have a defence that keeps so many clean sheets most games I only need one goal to win

It's definanttly possible to do

mallen102000

4-5-1 obviously that was supposed to be

George Graham

Thing is 451 isnt about your forward bagging all the goals, its about getting other players forward.

I cant score for love or money with 451 but thats imo because my team are sitting and letting the FC do all the work.

451 is a targetman formation and I think I need to set my team up for that.

As it is Im pleased as my team are solid as ****.

Quacky

At the moment I'm playing with a 6-1-2-1 formation in Brazilian leagues and scoring goals, theres a lot more to tactics that just where the players start on the pitch.