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Old 02-15-2008, 10:53 PM   Researchers - pretty terrible in some aspects Post #1
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seriously, the researchers for some major players have been so poor.

anderson and pato, two top brazillian prospects, are bound to normality on the game regardless of PA because supposedley they'ved used up nearly all their CA to become half-decent players. Anderson has been completley destroyed.

Have the research team really done their research?

Silva hasn't been superbly absolutley nuts amazing against big sides nor really small sides as much as Ronaldo, yet Ronaldo is pooped on.

Elano scored a few free kicks and longshots, but has gone missing in so many games this season yet hes rated as possibly the most creative player on the game?

Michael Johnson stars as one of the best players in the world despite only playing a handful of games at a really good level. Yes, the lads got potential.. potential.

Please SI, don't come up with the lame excuse "we have an editor for you to edit this back; its just subjective". ANYONE who watched football will see Anderon's quality of game is not restricted to how it is on the patch. Thats not subjective. Elano being better than Kaka is only subjective to a ******. Silva being stand-out best player in the world is stupid. Young players such as Pato, Aguero etc. do not grow a lot at all which is down to assigning the wrong CA (okay aguero maybe less, but still he should grow more considering his age!).

I'm not saying make lots of players fantastic but make them so that they have a future which is relative to IRL.

Arturo Vidal is WAY too good on the game in a few years. Why has he slipped through the net? Yes, a randomly assigned PA but what has he done IRL to show he'll become worldclass moreso than say Anderson or Pato? Vidal is just one to name.

Lets not get onto stupid little inefficiencies such as Ryan Babel's positions. He is a natural striker. He is a near natural right winger. Just because Rafa has played him on the left this season to cut inside (and because he is short on options on the left) does not mean he is a left sided player naturally! Babel has consistently said this season he is a striker.

Getting onto the topic of overrated players, Daniel Alves is out and out the best player in the world? No. He definitley is not. Hes an explosive attacking fullback. Mentally has he proven to have the best off the ball and positional movement? No. Why does he have it?

Toulouse's Mathieu boasts super-amazing stats for absolutley no reason IMO.

The only player I see who has earnt their out of this world stats is Zlatan Ibrahimovic and rightly so.

Seriously, this is such an important aspect of the game and its just ruined. Lame excuses of "we provide an editot to blahablah" or "we stand by our researchers". LOL. Anyone with a half decent footballing mind could balance these stats. Why decrease A LOT of players stats (I agree with this) but THEN increase or keep a lot of other players?

Miguel Veloso becomes out of this world etc.

A lot of players developments I know because I holidayed but I have also genie scouted a few files and some very surprising and unrealistic players come out with EXCELLENT stats. I can bet this wasn't counted on even by the researchers but they've obviously assigned the wrong CA/PA for the what the results are.
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Old 02-15-2008, 10:56 PM   Researchers - pretty terrible in some aspects Post #2
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oh and please, don't bring up the excuse "oh we're trying to please everyone but we can't".

who is being pleased with medicore research/assigned stats? the man city fans pleased with their bestplayerintheworld elano/michael johnson?
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If you have a look here you have the opportunity to take your issues to the actual people who did the research.

Can I suggest that you take your points to the relevant threads in that forum and argue your cases there?
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Old 02-15-2008, 11:01 PM   Researchers - pretty terrible in some aspects Post #4
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isn't that a bit tedious when in actual fact, its pretty evident that a person is needed to look through ALL the stats and then make a final balance?

by making so many smaller groups research different teams without someone moderating them thoroughly enough (a 3 hour job to make sure there are no super-amazing players?), it just makes sure everyone is thinking right.

i think its baltantly obvious that for example the people who were evaluating silva did not evaluate him under the same guidelines as the people who evaluated ronaldo.

also, what are the odds my suggestions posted there will even be considered? taking into account there is supposedley not another patch, despite the imo BLATANT mistakes, i think its pretty ridiculous.
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Old 02-15-2008, 11:05 PM   Researchers - pretty terrible in some aspects Post #5
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It's still a data issue which should be discussed in the data forum, I'm sure a discussion with the relevant researchers will help with your queries.
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Who do you support irl because with such a wealth of knowledge you obviously have it would be foolish not to have you as a researcher.
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Old 02-15-2008, 11:10 PM   Researchers - pretty terrible in some aspects Post #7
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lol, thanks for the sarcasm mate.

i support liverpool but i'm a pretty advid footy fan. i was going to bring up liverpools players and the fact kuyt does NOT have 20 first touch. definitley not compared to ronaldo/rooney's touch. nor is alonso as good as they've made him or mascherano. i think lucas has been pooped on. i think carragher deserves better mentals. i think agger is physically a little better than they say and hyppia still has a bit of pace in him (anyone remmeber hyppia vs. agbonlahor? not such a slow donkey then although im not saying he has agbonlahors pace lol). then riise has been HEAVILY overrated to the extent he looks like an undisputable worldclass player. also kewell is mentally still there a little. also babel's left foot isn't disgusting and hes right side natural strike natural.

im not trying to step on anyones toes. i'm not asking for stats to be perfect. i'm asking for stat moderation so that say 20 players on the game don't have out of this world stats which aren't relative to everyone elses on the game (unless they're deserved aka messi/ibrahimovic).
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Lets not get onto stupid little inefficiencies such as Ryan Babel's positions. He is a natural striker. He is a near natural right winger. Just because Rafa has played him on the left this season to cut inside (and because he is short on options on the left) does not mean he is a left sided player naturally! Babel has consistently said this season he is a striker.
His career didn't start from the moment he signed for Liverpool. He played on the left wing for Ajax and the dutch national team for years.
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Old 02-15-2008, 11:16 PM   Researchers - pretty terrible in some aspects Post #9
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i never said it did. hes been playing left wing for liverpool but time and time again, babel has admitted he loves the right wing/striker and is best practiced there but due to his managers, hes been on the left.

liverpoolfc dot tv (lfc official site) has some articles of babel wanted the striking position.

i think to make babel a natural left winger yet give him a poor left foot on football manager is a little redundant cos he doesn't cut inside on his instructions if i remember correctly.
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