Tactical Theorems and Frameworks 08

retired_anitarobinson · 02-14-2008, 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by Taunton:
Is it possible for you to explain a bit further what you mean with this quote?

Can you just ignore team mentality?

individual mentalities override team, so if everyone is set to a individual setting, the team slider becomes obsolete.

retired_mgavlick · 02-14-2008, 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by jsw123:
I always love reading yourself, cleon and the other legends on this forum, it's really helped me improve my game. Unfortunately after spending the whole day implementing pretty much everything discussed here my new game as Hereford manager was a disaster! P.5 W.0 D.0 L.5 F.3 A.13! I've decided to sack it off as it was getting pretty embarrassing. I used 4 basic frameworks, Defend/Counter/Balanced/Attack, all seemed completely ineffectual even against poor opposition and with a couple of half decent singings. Strange

One of the disadvanteges of the TT&F systems is how wrong they can go if the wrong choice has been made. Hence my focus on decision making and learning to read the game. Read Diaby's man-management stuff, which is aimed at minimising bad team performance through man and media interaction.

Hope you persist as the system can be very rewarding once you work it out.

retired_roshawnda82 · 02-15-2008, 12:03 AM

wwfan: saw you were in here so thought I'd make the most of it

I cannot praise patch 8.02 enough, it looks fantastic, so well done to you and the other beta testers!

The only thing I've noticed so far is that wingers try to cross it in early when set to cross often and cross from mixed (which is good) but when the do this it seems to be getting blocked quite a lot. I know in the fix-list it says that wingers will try to get a cross in early if given the right instructions (which again is good). Perhaps my wingers havent got the crossing and technique attributes to pull it off. Just wondered if you've noticed this or not, and if so, what I can do to get around it.

Thanks as always

retired_mgavlick · 02-15-2008, 12:19 AM

Based on real life statistics, only about one in five crosses come off. Of those that don't, perhaps half are blocked and half cleared. If you are seeing more blocks than that, then there is something wrong, but if not, I wouldn't worry about it.

retired_roshawnda82 · 02-15-2008, 12:30 AM

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The only thing I've noticed so far is that wingers...

Sorry, this was meant to read: the only BAD thing I've noticed so far! There are of course a million brilliant things, but missing the 'bad' off made it sound very ungrateful!

Yes I'd say that no more than half are being blocked, so if that's close to real life statistics then I'm all for it!

I'm not normally guilty of effusive exclamation mark use but I just can't help it tonight! My team Bolton also beat Athletico Madrid in Uefa Cup!!

retired_mgavlick · 02-15-2008, 12:39 AM

Two out of every five attempts to cross should be blocked. There or thereabouts anyway.

Already seen one person in GQ totally slag off the new patch. It's always nice to hear somebody is enjoying it, so keep the exclamation marks coming!!!

retired_roshawnda82 · 02-15-2008, 12:47 AM

That stat sounds quite realistic, and more so with wingers that aren't Petrov/Ronaldo-esque

Complaining already? That is absolutely ridiculous. The patch is brilliant! It just makes me want to watch all matches in full! The main thing that hits you instantly is it finally looks like a a football match with players constantly looking for options and moving at a realistic pace instead of before where often players would move/dally at a cringe-worthily slow pace. Like I said, hats off it looks great!

retired_omid · 02-15-2008, 01:20 AM

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Originally posted by Law_Man:
That stat sounds quite realistic, and more so with wingers that aren't Petrov/Ronaldo-esque

Complaining already? That is absolutely ridiculous. The patch is brilliant! It just makes me want to watch all matches in full! The main thing that hits you instantly is it finally looks like a a football match with players constantly looking for options and moving at a realistic pace instead of before where often players would move/dally at a cringe-worthily slow pace. Like I said, hats off it looks great!

Totally agree with you, quite how anyone can judge the patch on about 4 hours play is beyond me!! (more exclamation marks!!).

Followed your thread on fm-britain wwfan, as I have done with 07, 06 etc.

I made a chelsea-esque 4-3-2-1 formation based on your theory's. As aston_martin stated, I didn't follow you word for word, but your theroy's have enabled me to understand how tactics should be structured, and now no matter what formatio I play, I am confident that my team will play as a team.

I will continue to follow this thread and the others with great interest.

retired_kellyk · 02-15-2008, 05:08 AM

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Originally posted by Law_Man:
wwfan: saw you were in here so thought I'd make the most of it

I cannot praise patch 8.02 enough, it looks fantastic, so well done to you and the other beta testers!

The only thing I've noticed so far is that wingers try to cross it in early when set to cross often and cross from mixed (which is good) but when the do this it seems to be getting blocked quite a lot. I know in the fix-list it says that wingers will try to get a cross in early if given the right instructions (which again is good). Perhaps my wingers havent got the crossing and technique attributes to pull it off. Just wondered if you've noticed this or not, and if so, what I can do to get around it.

Thanks as always

I think the game has done quite well in getting fullbacks to close down dangerous players. Now if the AI has the right defensive line which should be in more cases around normal and has set most players to own half..then it's very possible that the wingers will find that their crosses are being blocked.

To counter this and to allow your wingers to break free and behind the dline, you should have some key players set on TTB. What would help more is getting your fullbacks to come up and support to cross that would make them a target for good crossing.

retired_kellyk · 02-15-2008, 05:35 AM

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Originally posted by davehanson:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Law_Man:
That stat sounds quite realistic, and more so with wingers that aren't Petrov/Ronaldo-esque

Complaining already? That is absolutely ridiculous. The patch is brilliant! It just makes me want to watch all matches in full! The main thing that hits you instantly is it finally looks like a a football match with players constantly looking for options and moving at a realistic pace instead of before where often players would move/dally at a cringe-worthily slow pace. Like I said, hats off it looks great!

Totally agree with you, quite how anyone can judge the patch on about 4 hours play is beyond me!! (more exclamation marks!!).

Followed your thread on fm-britain wwfan, as I have done with 07, 06 etc.

I made a chelsea-esque 4-3-2-1 formation based on your theory's. As aston_martin stated, I didn't follow you word for word, but your theroy's have enabled me to understand how tactics should be structured, and now no matter what formatio I play, I am confident that my team will play as a team.

I will continue to follow this thread and the others with great interest. </BLOCKQUOTE>

He's been beta testing the patch so...its been more than just a few hours.

Tactical Theorems and Frameworks 08

It's no use having a squad full of star players without a decent way for them to play their football.

Tactical Theorems and Frameworks 08