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Old 02-14-2008, 02:15 AM   Tactical Theorems and Frameworks 08 Post #11
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wwfan - what you have written is very good piece of work - well done.

However, I would like to know what specific results you have achieved with these theories?
I have played three full seasons (the rest of the time has been spent designing the theory and beta testing). 1st in the BSS, 9th in BSP (with a part-time team), 1st in the BSP (with a full-time team), currently 3rd in L2. Other contributors have won the Premiership, La Liga etc, but you'll have to ask them for details of their success.
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Old 02-14-2008, 08:47 AM   Tactical Theorems and Frameworks 08 Post #12
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Great read, some very interesting stuff there :thup:
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Old 02-14-2008, 09:49 AM   Tactical Theorems and Frameworks 08 Post #13
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Fantastic as always, and well worth the wait :thup:
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Old 02-14-2008, 11:20 AM   Tactical Theorems and Frameworks 08 Post #14
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Fixed the links :thup:

Just read it all the way through, well done mate was a fantastic read :thup:
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Old 02-14-2008, 11:25 AM   Tactical Theorems and Frameworks 08 Post #15
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wwfan- great work as always :thup:

Do you think there will need to be any changes if/when 8.0.2 comes out and for those who dont actaully design their own tactics, will you be posting a link to your tactics set as you did on TTand F 07?
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Old 02-14-2008, 01:31 PM   Tactical Theorems and Frameworks 08 Post #16
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I feel that is a leading question, FrazT!

No, there will need to be no changes when 8.0.2 comes out. I maight release my tactics when I'm 100% happy wit them, but until then, look for Millie's, Diaby's, Willo's 4-5-1, crazy gra's, pelle mandorff's to name but a few. None of them are 4-4-2s, which probably means they are better than my tactics, as they will offer advantages the 4-4-2 doesn't.

I won't tell you what they are, because that would invalidate the whole of TT&F, which tries to explain how to beat the engine logically and realistically. If I detailed engine weaknesses then the AI would be beaten unfairly and the joy wouldn't be so great when you finally clinch your first title.

A quick trawl through the T&T forum will give some indication of how the engine can be undone unrealistically should it be you desire to do so. It is a matter of putting two and two together from information already available. I don't want to belittle unrealistic tactics; they are creative and valuable. Creative because they find holes and exploit them. Valuable because they help those holes to be identified and patched up, which, ultimately, leads to a better engine
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Thanks for that mate- the question of releasing a tactics set wasnt actually for me as I have already spent a whole weekend designing one based on your thoughts but I do appreciate what you say.
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Thus, if you choose to set all mentalities individually it does not matter where the team mentality slider is positioned.
Great read!

Is it possible for you to explain a bit further what you mean with this quote?

Can you just ignore team mentality?
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Old 02-14-2008, 07:51 PM   Tactical Theorems and Frameworks 08 Post #19
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I always love reading yourself, cleon and the other legends on this forum, it's really helped me improve my game. Unfortunately after spending the whole day implementing pretty much everything discussed here my new game as Hereford manager was a disaster! P.5 W.0 D.0 L.5 F.3 A.13! I've decided to sack it off as it was getting pretty embarrassing. I used 4 basic frameworks, Defend/Counter/Balanced/Attack, all seemed completely ineffectual even against poor opposition and with a couple of half decent singings. Strange
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I always love reading yourself, cleon and the other legends on this forum, it's really helped me improve my game. Unfortunately after spending the whole day implementing pretty much everything discussed here my new game as Hereford manager was a disaster! P.5 W.0 D.0 L.5 F.3 A.13! I've decided to sack it off as it was getting pretty embarrassing. I used 4 basic frameworks, Defend/Counter/Balanced/Attack, all seemed completely ineffectual even against poor opposition and with a couple of half decent singings. Strange
You should probable made Control as well to use it when it comes to opponent hwo is playing very defansive. In this cases it dosnt help with Attack. Or you are just simlpy misunderstanding opponent and how thay play.
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