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I'm Brighton manager, into 3rd season now, got them into Championship and am in relegation battle with about 10 games to go.
I noticed the Nigeria manager had been sacked, and with about 4 months to go til World Cup 2010 and them having qualified for it, I thought this might be an exciting challenge so (not expecting to get it) I applied and was offered the job after a coupla weeks. I felt the chance to manage a team at the World Cup was to good an opportunity to pass up so I took it.
Now how do Fm-ers who like to play as realistically as possible view this? IRL a manager probably could not juggle trying to keep a club up while getting to know an international squad and preparing them for a world cup.
I hope you understand it was exciting a challenge to pass up, and also I am seriously considering resigning with Brighton at the end of the season regardless of whether I keep them up or not, in which case it makes it more realistic.
hey metro in my main save I started as Ireland manager(reached semis of euro 08) and managed Aston villa to Europe. then in 09 i left both for the arsenal(won the treble then the league) and france managers positions on the same day,
I left france for brazil and at this stage i decided to be a full time international coach. Won the WC with brazil.I'm at man city and ireland(again)
I find that managing both jobs is a good idea as there are long stints of inactivity as a full time int manager.
I would stick wth both, as I'd get bored without club management.
Perhaps it wil stand better on it's own now, as I've heard there have been lots of improvements to the international side of things on FM08.
In terms of realism, I would say don't leave Brighton in the lurch at such a crucial point of the season, and don't make your final decision until after the World Cup. After that you'll know where your heart lies, and noone would mind you combining roles on a short term basis.
And you'd kick yourself if you resigned, and then Nigeria sacked you straight after the WC.
On the other hand, if you're considering leaving Brighton anyway, then at the end of the season, and with something else to keep you occupied in the mean time, it might be a good time to leave.
Oh no don't get me wrong, I'd never leave Brighton in the lurch, I'm definitely staying with them til the end of the season, and if I'm honest with myself I'd find it hard to leave that job, I'm very attached to them.
Nigeria is more likely to be short-term than Brighton when I think about it. The Nigerian board only expect me to 'be competitive' in the group stage, where I'm pitched with SPain, Morocco and Ghana, so I'm fairly confident of meeting that target.
Wonder if there's any way that this easier enables me to get some of the Nigerian players into my Brighton team?
If I'm interpreting this right you are questioning the realism of having a club and international job at the same time?
On reading the post I would question the realism of a manager whose CV includes:-
1. 3 years of club management experience
2. No International management experience
3. Most notable achievement: Getting Brighton promoted to the Championship
4. Battling relegation in the Championship
actually being offered the job with a top African nation who have already qualified for the World Cup.
Unless you are Nigerian (or have Nigeria as a second nationality) and set your experience as 'International Footballer' (i.e. the game views you as a previous Nigerian international) then in my opinion it's pretty unlikely you would be offered that job with your current football CV.
If I was going to quit either job for the sake of realism it would be the Nigeria one (which I wouldn't have accepted in the first place on the grounds of realism). That's my opinion on it, and isn't a sarcastic swipe at your concept of realism so please don't take offense
No that's fine, and as I said, I did not expect to get the job at all, so that was surprising, and yes in real life it would be unrealistic.
My question is whether it would be realistic that a manager could sustain the effort and time needed to put into each job? Obviously with us, it's simply a case of not clicking continue until you are ready. If only real life worked like that...
But then Steve McClaren getting the England job (Most Important Job In The World TM) on his qualifications was unbelievably unrealistic.
He must have been set at international footballer. That is unrealistic to believe the national team appoint a international star to their coach. Teams like Nigeria notoriously appoint foriegn coaches as well. A lot of international teams have appointed international with limited or no management experience, eg Klinnsman and Marco Van Basten.
It is realistic if you think of your management game as that of an international legend getting into mangement, not as a semi-pro work horse trying to make a career in management.
I don't think I did have it set at International. I will check.
I'm still not convinced it's realistic for someone to juggle higher(ish) league management and country management at the same time.
If people can think of some examples of managers managing for club and country at the same, at a good level with both, I'd be really interested in hearing them.
And remember, Steve McClaren shows that anything is possible when you PANIC and grab the nearest Englishman.
I suppose in terms of realism you have to consider the fact that you would be traveling alot. Away games AND home games are going to take a lot of to-ing and fro-ing. Specially seeing as you're based in England.
So you can make a case for picking one over the other based on the above I suppose. Honestly though it's not something that would stop me I'm really enjoying the International management in the game. I'm managaing Witton in the Premiership and Scotland. For mine though I am a top flight manager and Scotland had just failed to qualify, rather dismally, for Europe.
Suprised you got the Nigeria job considering* but, it could be a really fun one. There are lots of gaps with no matches but you could fill that with scouting and attending games. I'd reccomend staying with Brighton as well though. In real life I don't see a manager ditching his team at that point in the season for any job. The fans would hate them.
Stick with them, see if you can save them from Relegation, even if its only a parting gift!
*You could claim they are shaking things up. Picking a lesser known manager with certain talents. For example you have experience pushing for promotion, I imagine working with a limited budget (which could translate to working with a limited national pool) and now have the experience of a tough survival scrap. There are ways to justify it all
Obviously it isn't realistic to manage a club and a relatively major country at the same time. If you want realism don't do it. If you just want to have the most fun you can in your game then go for it.
Personally I have often found that when I take on an international job as a club manager I find internationals an irritation and can't be bothered picking the squad and all that when I just want to get on with my club management.