retired_kellyk

I just lost all 3 DCs in my team, being a poor club we don;t have the funds to purchase players..and no one wants to come on loan. Talk about a crisis.

retired_explosivechic

I just lost all 3 DCs in my team, being a poor club we don;t have the funds to purchase players..and no one wants to come on loan. Talk about a crisis. </BLOCKQUOTE>
Thats just tough luck.

retired_slayerbing

just thought that i now play with high closing down all match which i never could of done in '06 cos they were knackered after an hour

out of interest, at what health level threshold, do you think, 'right i'm gonna take him off'. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok as a general rule nobody below 95% wouold start a competitive fixture for me. 90 or above would get on the bench though.
I usually think about replacing a player after he goes under 80% however if he is playing well and his presence is vital I might keep him on till 70%. After that He verging on exhaustion in my opinion and his staying on the field is risking injury.

Also if we are up 3-0 or something I might take a valuable player off earlier depending on the fixture list and play one of the lads who don't play as much, like a youngster or a fringe player - that has 2 obvious benefits. One is resting your star and the other is giving someone else a chance to shine a little in a match I have already won.

I mostly try to make my substututions at around about the 60 minute mark. That means the oncoming player has enough time to attain a rating other than 6 and if possible I try to only make 2 substitutions in the game and save the third for unexpected injuries. However I have no qualms about replacing someone at halftime if he is on a 4 rating or something silly like that.

retired_jbrady06

Thats about what I get, so I think we are in the majority. I think it's probably his training levels.

Another thing I just thought of is (maybe) his tactic. If it is a high tempo tactic perhaps his players are regularly tired by the end of the game and this is affecting their overall revovery time - just a stab in the dark mind you. </BLOCKQUOTE>

You may have hit on something there. I play high tempo game and my midfielders do a lot of running. I did some investigation and found that my players at 96% or below also have stamina level below 14. It's probably my strength + aerobic training + high tempo game that's causing them to be tired. I don't slow down even until the 90th minute so that could be it.

If i take down strength and aerobic, can i push them hard on other areas? Some people are saying they train up to 80-90% and still get fit players, I'm curious to see their training programs! Can those people tell me where they put their strength and aerobic training??

retired_slayerbing

To be honest I don't know the answer to your question. I imagine thinking reasonably that Natural fitness and stamina must play a pretty big factor in revovery times and deteriation of levels during the game. Tempo also is a mitigating factor as you have alluded to. To be honest I am very much looking forward to the patch as I imagine everything will be tweaked and our current observations and ideas may well change.

But I think the norm will remain that if we overtrain in the fitness aspect there will be glaring injury effects as a result. Therefore when making a training programme this needs to be kept in mind.

(Hope I made sense - just got home from the pub so mind wandering a little )

retired_jbrady06

You did make sense about the injury bit. I train my wingers at aerobics to the highest possible range of MEDIUM. In the first week of the season I had 4 of my 5 wingers out injured during the game and also in training. I suspected something was going on, but after they returned this problem disappeared.

I read somewhere about the injury bug so i thought that was it. Now i see my players unfit, i think it must be my training program...

guess i will never really know until the patch comes out..

oh well, not going to complain though.. most of my problems seem to be flaring from my away tactics!

retired_kellyk

I've been thinking about this for a while, I noticed that the players who don't play nearly as often as the starters seem to be performing better in training. Those who play almost every match seem to peak early in a season and then wilt away, climaxing in a spate of injuries towards the end of the season.

Aside from the obvious, I'm going to try to rotate my squad more next season, and perhaps have a low tempo and high tempo tactic, and perhaps even lower the intensity of training towards the last few months and focus more on maintaining their levels instead of trying to boost.

It does not make any sense to me that a player should be on a training programme that emphasis strength and aerobics if he is already playing so much.

retired_slayerbing

I agree that rotation is the best course. I generally try to have two players in each position and rotate them on a 5 game basis (5 is easy to remember ). Having said that I am in the luxury position of having a premiership side. This isn't always an option for LLM.

retired_kellyk

How right you are Dayle.