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Old 11-18-2006, 12:19 AM   Tackle percentage Post #1
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Look at the tackling percentage in this screenshot Link

How is that possible when you see ManU's % aswell?

Surely if I won 58% they can only win 42% as we tackle each other.

The only way I can figure this out, is the percentage only takes into account your own tackles when not in possession and doesn't work it out against the opponent. For example.. I win the first tackle this makes it 100%. Now when the other side as lost posession and tackles my player and they win it that is also 100% if they win the first tackle. Instead of giving us both 50% for making a tackle and winning it, it thinks we both have 100%.

Am I making sense?
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Old 11-18-2006, 12:33 AM   Tackle percentage Post #2
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lol?

if you have the ball you can't tackle anyone, so they won't add up
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Old 11-18-2006, 12:34 AM   Tackle percentage Post #3
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Not necessarily. If you think about it, i'll describe it from the Sheff U v Man U match you just played. If, for example, Ronaldo was running with the ball for Man Utd and your left back challenged him and won the ball. That is one tackle you've made and won. So your percentage would be 100%. Ronaldo didn't make a tackle in that situation as your player just went in on him and took the ball. That wouldn't count as a tackle made by Man Utd.

Next up, the ball is in the middle of the pitch, loose and is winnable for both teams as noone is currently in possession of it. So both your player and Man Utd's player go for the ball and slide in for it. Man Utd's player wins it.

That means they have made 1 tackle so far and won it, so their percentage would be 100%. You will have challenged for the ball twice. Once in that scenario, and once in the other scenario, but you only won one of those two challenges, which was the first challenge from the first scenario. So in total, you have made two challenges and won one, giving you a tackle won percentage of 50% compared to Man Utd's 100%.

I believe that is how it is worked out mate
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Old 11-18-2006, 12:39 AM   Tackle percentage Post #4
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Originally posted by superbuns:
lol?

if you have the ball you can't tackle anyone, so they won't add up
I know that, you don't get what I mean.

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Not necessarily. If you think about it, i'll describe it from the Sheff U v Man U match you just played. If, for example, Ronaldo was running with the ball for Man Utd and your left back challenged him and won the ball. That is one tackle you've made and won. So your percentage would be 100%. Ronaldo didn't make a tackle in that situation as your player just went in on him and took the ball. That wouldn't count as a tackle made by Man Utd.
Aye I understand that bit.

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That means they have made 1 tackle so far and won it, so their percentage would be 100%. You will have challenged for the ball twice. Once in that scenario, and once in the other scenario, but you only won one of those two challenges, which was the first challenge from the first scenario. So in total, you have made two challenges and won one, giving you a tackle won percentage of 50% compared to Man Utd's 100%.

I believe that is how it is worked out mate
Thats what i thought

But if thats true, how can the percentage for both sides add up to more than 100%? Surely it should only be 100% no matter what and never work out like 134% etc?

Thats what Im getting at.

the percentages dont seem to add when you look at individual stats.

Although that could be the booze, booze and maths does not mix
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Old 11-18-2006, 12:44 AM   Tackle percentage Post #5
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Thats what i thought

But if thats true, how can the percentage for both sides add up to more than 100%?
Because 100+50>100?

If team A makes one tackle during the whole match and they win the ball, and team B do the same, you have 100% twice.
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Old 11-18-2006, 12:45 AM   Tackle percentage Post #6
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Nvm im being blonde yet again on a Friday night. I knew there was a reason I never questioned this before.

Note to self, not to drink and play FM, it doesn't agree with my thought proccess
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Old 11-18-2006, 12:49 AM   Tackle percentage Post #7
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i think the thing is simple. the tackle percentage is not a global one(match) its just % of the tackles your team made and won. so is for the opposite team. you made 10 tackles won 6 its 60% , so did the other team. thats the way the percantage should be handled and i belive thats the way it is. if your team makes the perfect game you will get 100% tackles won, but thats only the tackles your players made, the other team still can get like 60% or something. getting to the point - i think the percantage of won tackles contributing to your team only.
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Old 11-18-2006, 12:52 AM   Tackle percentage Post #8
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You know the bit what really threw me, it was the loose balls bits. Somehow I forgot about loose balls and thats why when I looked at individual tackles it didn't add up for me. But obviously if there loose balls then that particular % will be worked out for against both teams and not 1. Hence why it didn't add up doing it that way.
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Old 11-18-2006, 12:53 AM   Tackle percentage Post #9
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It can easily do that mate. The tackling percentages aren't a gauge of you've won 60% so they can only have won 40%. Some situations one player will make a tackle and the other person doesn't make a challenge. So you have made one tackle and won it, where as the other team haven't made a tackle.

Look at it like this. Sheff Utd over 90 mins made 30 attempts to tackle someone. 15 of those were sliding tackles unchallenged which you won. So those 15 challenges don't count as tackles made by Man Utd players as they didn't attempt to make a tackle. They're only classed as Sheff Utd tackles. The other 15 tackles, were in direct challenges with man utd players who were tackling you also. of those 15 you won the ball 10 times. United won it 5 times. So overall, you attempted 30 tackles and won the ball 25 times. giving you a tackle won percentage of about 83%.

Now, Man Utd made 20 tackles on you unchallenged, your player didn't challenge them when they tackled you, so they don't count as Sheff Utd tackles made, and won all of those. Add that to the 5 they won off you in direct challenges means they won 25 tackles out of 35 attempted tackles. Giving them a tackle won percentage of 71%.

Do you get what I'm saying?
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