retired_corellian

rashidi

do you use the same closing down away and home games? and do you use global passing or individual? And what dou you think, should i play quick \tempo when i playing home, and slow when away? thanx

retired_karan_singhal

Amazing level of info! and i thought i knew a bit about the game. Respect!

retired_anithavish

this is a great thread it will take me a while to understand all these different theories on tactics but i will give it a go. Has anyone tried this with a 442 formation i amthinking fo giving a go with Arsenal

retired_kellyk

@fq

No I do not use the same closing down away/home, it all depends on who I play, and what formations I face. Presently I'm using a welsh club in conference south. The way I play is usually begin with a staggered closing down strategy, where i break my teams into different zones. The ones up front CD the hardest.


I've been experimenting with DLine as well, so when I push up my defensive line...I tend to end up parking my bus in their half. By playing slow tempo, short passing, I keep pinging their box with crosses.

There was one game I knew that would not be possible cos they possessed a strong midfield who could pass the ball very well. Against them I pressed them hard and kept them pegged in their half and then with 10 mins to go I loosened the pressure by using another tactic with one preset closing down value for the whole team.

I have no idea what you should play, it really depends on how good a squad you have vs the rest of the league. If you have a very good side then you don't really need to do very much to win. You could put the whole team on one CD keep one DC at a low CD. Set the Dline at 10, start with a narrow formation with a short passing game with short tempo...and then when you see the other side has less stamina, switch to direct passing, quick tempo and deep dline.

Can you see that there are various ways to play?

retired_corellian

rash

i have one last question:

i played with this settings:

dc- cd 5
fb-cd 12
dmc-cd 12
mr/l-cd 12
amc,fc,fc-cd 20

But please tell me: how i should give c.freedom for amc, fc, fc. Becouse when FCs and Amc has dc 20 i worry that their(FCs,AMC) don`t create changes to score. Should i give thier max cf? I should i give my wingers higher cd. ( i usually give my wingers cd 12)

Sorry for take your time and my poor english
Thanx for answer

retired_kellyk

Are you playing a narrow or wide formation? If its wide I reckon that you could keep you DMC on the same settings, the fullbacks look ok. Why don't you you have the ML-SC all on 15 for CD? I'd try that.

As far as CF goes, it really depends. I would just set the attackers on 12.

retired_corellian

rash

thanx for answer

i always play wide ( 14) I hate play narrow. So if i play wide my dmc is on cd 12. Is that ok? You told me " i would set Fc on 12" but cd or cf?

retired_kellyk

I like to play on normal for width, I find that is usually enough for my side which is always tipped to be a relegation candidate. Playing with my 442 diamond. I usually have high CDs for the strikers. Usually at 20..this includes the AMC as well the fullbacks and the wingers are on the same around 12 and the DCs are set to much lower and on tight marking.

As far as creative freedom is concerned. Having the front line on 12 should be sufficient. If my side can play some really exquisite football on 12, I can't see why yours can't

retired_corellian

thanx rash. I `m glad to your opinion. I will try playing with this seetings and give you fedback ( if you want ofcourse)

dc- cd 5 cf 5
fc- cd 12 cf 5
dmc- cd 12 cf 5
mr/l- cd 15 cf 10
amc- cd 20 cf 12
fCs- cd 20 cf 12

I never play with counter attack on. I love keep possesion. I think that counter attack on can lose possesion ( it is my opinion ofcourse)
to keep possesion i playing slow tempo , short passing. And give hold ball 2 players ( dmc, and fc with lower mentality)

Rash, what do you think about this seetings?

retired_mgavlick

Any new discoveries on d-line, Rash? from TT&F it seems it is pretty vital in terms of opening up space, but as I can't play FM I can't look see. What are your observations on high d-line v low d-line related to type of defensive possession?