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Old 10-24-2006, 02:45 AM   Creating Effective Tactics - One possible approach Post #11
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Great post bud . Took me 4 hours to read like but yeah, i will be hoping that a few tips can help me :thup:
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:48 AM   Creating Effective Tactics - One possible approach Post #12
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Excellent Post Rashidi,

You are my hero...

I am going to use the new understanding I have just gained about the match engine/game to turn around the abysmal season I am having here...

But instead of a 3-4-3, I'm thinking of more of a 3-4-2-1 because my team's strength is in AMC's and weakness is in FC's. I have set the AMC's up as if they were the "wing strikers" in a 3-4-3 kinda like this

\ FC
\ \
\ \
AMC AMC

I'm thinking there shouldn't be too much of a difference in performance when compared to a 3-striker formation. what do you think?
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:52 AM   Creating Effective Tactics - One possible approach Post #13
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Quote:
Originally posted by lanredo:
Excellent Post Rashidi,

You are my hero...

I am going to use the new understanding I have just gained about the match engine/game to turn around the abysmal season I am having here...

But instead of a 3-4-3, I'm thinking of more of a 3-4-2-1 because my team's strength is in AMC's and weakness is in FC's. I have set the AMC's up as if they were the "wing strikers" in a 3-4-3 kinda like this

\ FC
\ \
\ \
AMC AMC

I'm thinking there shouldn't be too much of a difference in performance when compared to a 3-striker formation. what do you think?
For the Setup, it was meant to be


--------\------FC--------
---------\------\--------
----------\------\-------
----------AMC----AMC------


PS,

Just to clarify, in that "Diamond Back Four", Do you have your DC's with sarrows?
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Old 10-24-2006, 03:00 AM   Creating Effective Tactics - One possible approach Post #14
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I like tactics with three at the back and three upfront and I see that you then use a DM to cover these three defenders.

My question is what do you do with the three vacant midfielder positions?
You say that when use three at the back you need to win the flanks and was wondering how you would go about this: MR-MC-ML, MR-AMC-ML, WBR-CM-WBL or WBR-AMC-WBL?

I allways find this very difficult to set up and usually end up with a 5-3-2 formation.
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Old 10-24-2006, 08:16 AM   Creating Effective Tactics - One possible approach Post #15
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new :thup: char
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Old 10-24-2006, 10:13 AM   Creating Effective Tactics - One possible approach Post #16
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Quote:
Originally posted by lanredo:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by lanredo:
Excellent Post Rashidi,

You are my hero...

I am going to use the new understanding I have just gained about the match engine/game to turn around the abysmal season I am having here...

But instead of a 3-4-3, I'm thinking of more of a 3-4-2-1 because my team's strength is in AMC's and weakness is in FC's. I have set the AMC's up as if they were the "wing strikers" in a 3-4-3 kinda like this

\ FC
\ \
\ \
AMC AMC

I'm thinking there shouldn't be too much of a difference in performance when compared to a 3-striker formation. what do you think?
For the Setup, it was meant to be


--------\------FC--------
---------\------\--------
----------\------\-------
----------AMC----AMC------


PS,

Just to clarify, in that "Diamond Back Four", Do you have your DC's with sarrows? </BLOCKQUOTE>

I can't really tell...why don't you use [Codes] that way you can put the arrows in and it'll be clearer...it'd be easier if you tell me what you want to achieve. It looks to me like you want to Darrow this which would mean players running diagonally. I haven't really tried that out consistently yet to see how that would translate. But if you do choose to have AMCs then you have a lot of options, they could be darrowed, which would mean they usually work their way down the flanks. But my experience with this is limited, my experiements didn't work they way I wanted so i had to put it aside
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Old 10-24-2006, 10:18 AM   Creating Effective Tactics - One possible approach Post #17
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I like tactics with three at the back and three upfront and I see that you then use a DM to cover these three defenders.

My question is what do you do with the three vacant midfielder positions?
You say that when use three at the back you need to win the flanks and was wondering how you would go about this: MR-MC-ML, MR-AMC-ML, WBR-CM-WBL or WBR-AMC-WBL?

I allways find this very difficult to set up and usually end up with a 5-3-2 formation.
In a traditional 343 formation the flanka are defensive in orientation and hardly if ever take runs to the byeline. In my 343 formations thats what they do, the idea is to have your central MCs act as the link. Another option is the direct route to attack. Now if your strikeforce include fowards who cross, then having your DCs on direct passing could prove useful when you break.

Personally, depending on the team. I would have one 343 which would be heavily closing down in front and at the back for the DCs and with TM and low closing down for the wide midfielders, high tempo with direct passing.

For a 352...thats almost on the same lines except this time I want the WBRs to make forward runs as opposed to the wide mids in the 343. I would probably employ 2 MCs and 1 AMC in this formation. The team would be set on short passing and would play a match of slow tempo. But I will definitely consider putting my WBs on direct passing and set both my forwards on cross ball and give the AMC an arrow into the box, or set him up high on mentality so he comes in unmarked
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Old 10-24-2006, 11:19 AM   Creating Effective Tactics - One possible approach Post #18
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rashidi will you be making any tactics this year for FM.....can you also give me more pointers on4-1-3-2...i have an "avarage team" but i wanna be able to make a tactic where big teams(like chelsea and man u and all the others) wont simmply walk all over my team....so how would so you set up a 4-1-3-2 formation with an avarage team against big teams(CA-around 135 for all players)
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Old 10-24-2006, 11:29 AM   Creating Effective Tactics - One possible approach Post #19
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Looks like the D-line debate will run and run...

I'm with Rash and Noel on this- it seems to be less important certainly, although I did notice a differnce when changing from push up to deep. For the better too. Will be interesting to test this further.

Great thread Rash.
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Old 10-24-2006, 11:33 AM   Creating Effective Tactics - One possible approach Post #20
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i use the trident stike force but with 2 strikers, i play as swindon and Lee Peacock (FC) likes to get right into the corner of the pitch, even though he is a centre forward.

so I usually have his 'right-click arrow' for want of a better term, allowing him to go there, and i have my other 'main' striker who puts the goals away


i usually play a 4-1-3-2 and I have Ricky Shakes (AMR) on the right hand side of the 3, with a 'right-click-arrow' sending him to the true AMR position, I have the tactic set up to go down the right flank, with Ricky Shakes as the play maker.

so basically i have a nice attack where my defense will want to give it to the playmaker Shakes, he pushes up and meets Peacock in the 'top right corner' of the pitch

then Shakes runs into the box, and meets my centre forward, and one of the 3 players will put the ball away.

ive scored about 25 goals in 10 games!


i am playing with swindon, who are a natural 5-3-2 team, but they suggest 3-2-3-2 (ie 3 DC, 2WB 3 MC, 2 ST) but it only seems to work well against teams which are 'better' than me
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