Thank you SI from a long-time fan

Bumble · 02-11-2008, 06:33 PM

And 98.25% of statistics are made up on the spot.

Kill Rock Stars · 02-11-2008, 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by something less annoying:

No amount of work makes the AI stop paying 35+ year old players (whose ability has gone done a ludicrous amount) £100,000p/w.

the same goes for the poor and inconsistent quality of regens, the ai being unable to build squads for the future, the mls and other leagues having massive bugs in them, certain attributes being far too important (pace in particular), defensive ai being heavily flawed, and so on

there have been a few threads like this, and they never actually touch on the individual issues people have complained about - they just try and complain that anyone unsatisfied by the game is somehow lazy and at fault

Bumble · 02-11-2008, 07:11 PM

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Originally posted by Kill Rock Stars:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by something less annoying:

No amount of work makes the AI stop paying 35+ year old players (whose ability has gone done a ludicrous amount) £100,000p/w.

the same goes for the poor and inconsistent quality of regens, the ai being unable to build squads for the future, the mls and other leagues having massive bugs in them, certain attributes being far too important (pace in particular), defensive ai being heavily flawed, and so on

there have been a few threads like this, and they never actually touch on the individual issues people have complained about - they just try and complain that anyone unsatisfied by the game is somehow lazy and at fault </BLOCKQUOTE>

No, it's not about saying people are lazy and at fault, it's about the fact people are unwilling to take anything positive away from something and only focus on the negatives which goes to show what an ungrateful lot some people can be.

Yes, there are flaws but they do not break the game, they do not make it unplayable and 95% of the time it's a damn fine and enjoyable experience. However, rather than consistent, constructive criticism, they whinge and whine and moan when they should be looking at changing the way they play the game.

No, you are not going to blow everyone away. Yes, you do have to work at your tactics, but no one ever said it was going to be easy and you'd romp away with everything.

Life and football is not a pre-ordained series of mathematical functions where A + B = C and FM does a damn good job of imitating it without laying in to a strict law of if X + Y happen then Z will happen.

However, I would rather people be positive and grateful for what they have when the alternatives could be a Hell of a lot worse. Look at all the people clamouring for a 8.0.2 - 'I want it naOW!' - Spoilt brats who do not have patience.

nelsonmcjones · 02-11-2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally posted by Kill Rock Stars:

there have been a few threads like this, and they never actually touch on the individual issues people have complained about - they just try and complain that anyone unsatisfied by the game is somehow lazy and at fault

Simply not true KRS. No one is saying unsatisfied gamers are lazy or at fault, well not from my interpretation of this thread, merely that our fondness of S.I. products past and present needs airing from time to time.

I'm overly aware not everyone is satisfied with the latest installment (see every other thread on this forum) that is why this post is so refreshing. Perhaps I'm just a nostalgic optimist, if such a thing is possible...?

Nipersoft · 02-11-2008, 07:27 PM

Im 16 and have been playing for about 5 years.

Its surprising how some people look down on young gamers because 'im a kid' even though im sure i show the same hard work with scouting and tactics as the older gamers.

But on a lighter not, i love Football Manager, its not perfect, but what is ? its THE BEST football management game there is.

Well done S.I :thup:

hdogie · 02-11-2008, 07:36 PM

SI are a class bunch. Every time I've had a problem with one of their products, they've worked with me to fix it. They listen to customer feedback and patch their games accordingly. I was upset when they pulled the plug on Riz and EHM due to piracy, and it's too bad they'll no longer have a hand in the OOTP series.

Fortunately, FM is still just as challenging (if not more so) and detailed as ever.

So good job, SI. Please keep listening to our negative feedback, but don't let the whiners get you down. :thup:

robin_trott_hoof · 02-11-2008, 07:37 PM

The good far outweighs the bad so :thup:. Otherwise I'm sure we'd be stuck with something far inferior.

But I'd like to add that The Double and Tracksuit Manager were far better early management games than the early eighties Football Manager.

Bumble · 02-11-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by robin_trott_hoof:
The good far outweighs the bad so :thup:. Otherwise I'm sure we'd be stuck with something far inferior.

But I'd like to add that The Double and Tracksuit Manager were far better early management games than the early eighties Football Manager.

Stone the Blasphemer!

*ahem*

I do have a soft spot for Footballer of the Year and Footballer of the Year 2 by Gremlin, they were a lot of fun too.