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Old 11-20-2006, 01:38 PM   Passing - Do You Understand It? Post #11
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its all way to much information for a friggen game ahhhh my heads going insaine

So i have to get all my players onto the right notch just to make them pass, and if my 1st team dont play i have to change this every fkn match hahaha

wheres my copy of fm06 gone!
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Old 11-22-2006, 03:11 PM   Passing - Do You Understand It? Post #12
 
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Hi, I think this could hold the key to my tactic and vision of how I want my team to play.
I'm ashamed to say that the last FM I played was FM05 thanks to a broken computer and other factors and I think passing instructions have changed slightly....
I remember when playing FM05 seeing advice on these forums about how to set up passing instructions,I think it was from yourself Cleon.
What I think was advised back then was for players with low passing rating to try nothing too complicated and keep their passing relatively short. The reason being if they were poor at passing and were instructed to play direct or long balls then the he would simply be giving the ball back to the oppposition.
By the same token I remember being advised that talented passers of the ball could afford to pass the ball directly as this would produce incisive,defence-splitting passes. These bits of advice seemed to work at the time.
Now fast forward to FM07......
Judging by what I'm reading here this theory has pretty much made a complete turnaround and the opposite advice is being given unless I am grossly mistaken.
Could someone clear this up for me please,preferably Cleon as I believe it was your advice I followed to good effect on FM05. I'm hoping this will be the missing link that brings my tactic together because I feel as though my team's shape,movement etc. are pretty good.
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Old 11-22-2006, 03:43 PM   Passing - Do You Understand It? Post #13
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On older versions of the game, I felt you could get away with short passing if you had really bad players. However now, I am not so sure and find they get dispossed a rather lot when playing short passing.
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Old 11-22-2006, 03:53 PM   Passing - Do You Understand It? Post #14
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Hi Cleon, can you explain what's the difference between 'focus passing through the middle' and 'down both flanks'?

And when do I use which 1?

Hope you can help. Thanks.
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Old 11-22-2006, 03:53 PM   Passing - Do You Understand It? Post #15
 
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Cool,a slight shift in interpratation. Thanks for clearing that up.
Where I'm really being frustrated is when my best passers,set on direct passing,are passing the ball dreadfully. They're pretty much kicking it into corners with my strikers getting nowhere near it.

I'll go back with renewed enthusiasm and hope and get them zipping it about with one touch stuff!
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Old 11-22-2006, 03:57 PM   Passing - Do You Understand It? Post #16
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Quote:
Originally posted by vasilli07:
Hi Cleon, can you explain what's the difference between 'focus passing through the middle' and 'down both flanks'?

And when do I use which 1?

Hope you can help. Thanks.
Its simple, it does exactly what it says.

If you don't have wingers in your squad then its pretty pointless passing down the flanks and vice versa.
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Old 11-22-2006, 04:09 PM   Passing - Do You Understand It? Post #17
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cleon:
On older versions of the game, I felt you could get away with short passing if you had really bad players. However now, I am not so sure and find they get dispossed a rather lot when playing short passing.
Certainly agree with that- I could use short passing effectively at Conference level in the last game- whereas now it's a different story altogether.

Another example of the instructions working more effectively in my opinion.
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Old 11-22-2006, 04:47 PM   Passing - Do You Understand It? Post #18
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For what it's worth, although I agree with Cleon, nonleague seems to have a valid point. In my opinion the passing instructions could have been more useful with less options to choose from. 20 different styles of passing just seem absurd. What is the logical difference between passing 3 and 5, apart from 5 beeing slightly less "short"? And between 8 and 10? This is something i can't seem to get my head around. Maybe 5 different options would be enough, and cause less frustration?
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Old 11-22-2006, 04:48 PM   Passing - Do You Understand It? Post #19
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Hang on. I'm a bit lost now.

Short passing. Just passing to the nearest player. That's not really hard in real life. So shouldn't players with bad passing be able to accomplish that?

Direct passing. Passing a long distance. That's much harder! Thats what make players like Beckham, Alonso etc famous. Cos they have the ability to pass the ball a long distance.

So shouldn't short be for players with low passing?
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Old 11-22-2006, 04:51 PM   Passing - Do You Understand It? Post #20
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Originally posted by Rafalution:
For what it's worth, although I agree with Cleon, nonleague seems to have a valid point. In my opinion the passing instructions could have been more useful with less options to choose from. 20 different styles of passing just seem absurd. What is the logical difference between passing 3 and 5, apart from 5 beeing slightly less "short"? And between 8 and 10? This is something i can't seem to get my head around. Maybe 5 different options would be enough, and cause less frustration?
Its done in 20's so you build upto a certain type of passing and don't go from 1 extreme to the other. For example say u had only 3 options, 1 might be normal, 2 would be direct and 3 would be long, there is no inbetween.

Agsin with only 5 options it would be a case of going from 1 extreme to the other.
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