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Old 11-08-2007, 11:26 PM   Cm's getting tired - Tactics problem? Post #11
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Thanks for your help Amaroq. here are some answers to your questions:

1) Running beta patch 1
2) They are match fit. I rarely play someone on 1st team who isn't.
3) It varies from game to game, but most of the time they are 95 or 96. I should check and watch to see how they are when they start as 100.
4) The more defensive player has rarely for forward runs, and the more offensive one is in the middle.
5) Team mentality is attacking, with the slider about 4 or 5 ticks to the right.
6) Tempo is just below the medium default setting. To the slow side.
7) Defensive line plays deep.
8) No i have their training set to medium all year.
9) Training is medium and nobody is unhappy with it.
10) Aerobic training would be below average. I set it up so training is more focused on other areas.

It could be that they are covering too much ground, but the problem is I am winning and I don't want to tinker with pushing the fullbacks up or anything like that, because I am really rolling. The only issue I would like to sort out if my CM getting so tired because I obviously don't want to sub for a good defender when i am winning the game.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:59 PM   Cm's getting tired - Tactics problem? Post #12
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Hmm, most of your answers are "what I'd expect", e.g., not things that I would expect would lead to problems.

Here's the only things that caught my eye:

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1) Running beta patch 1
You might try beta patch 2 - I haven't heard that this was fixed in it, but there were other fixes. (its the 27MB one from Friday the 2nd, not the 10MB one before that.)

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3) It varies from game to game, but most of the time they are 95 or 96. I should check and watch to see how they are when they start as 100.
That makes sense, if they're super tired they probably aren't recovering fully by the next match. Still, they ought to be able to go the distance as long as you're not playing 'em two matches a week week-in and week-out.

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5) Team mentality is attacking, with the slider about 4 or 5 ticks to the right.
7) Defensive line plays deep.
The deep defensive line coupled with an attacking mentality is creating more midfield space - you're leaving a pretty large "gap" between your back four (who all sit back) and your front four (who are all attacking). The CM's are the only two guys occupying that space .. so it makes sense that they're having to do a lot of work in it.

Obviously if you don't want to tinker with it, you don't want to tinker with it - but it may be the sort of thing where, say, two ticks up on the D-line and two ticks back on mentality "solve" this problem without creating a new one. Save your current tactic before you go playing around with it, though!

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8) No i have their training set to medium all year.
That worries me most, out of this list. I always always always push my guys through four-to-six weeks of intensive pre-season regime. So, for example, if my guys come back to training on 6th of July and have our first competitive match on 25th August (say), I'd run them on a very intense aerobic-and-strength-training schedule from 6th July to 10th August, and then would go to something halfway between that and their regular-season schedule from 10th August to 27th August or so .. and only then (after the season-opener) do I go to their regular training regime.

(Typically, I have about eight training schedules saved: pre-season; late-pre-season-attacking; late-pre-season-defending; defender; midfielder; winger; striker; goalkeeper.)

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10) Aerobic training would be below average. I set it up so training is more focused on other areas.
I do think of "aerobic" training as something key for midfielders - my midfielders and wingers get more "aerobic" than anybody else on the team. Stamina and fitness is key to the position, in my mind.

. . .

Now, I'm not sure any of those is going to solve your problem.. I'm more just calling out the things that I spot. Its up to you what changes you want to make ..

.. and of course if you're on a good run of form, you might want to hold off until next off-season before making any changes at all, and start with #8 or #10 for the following season.

ps, you're welcome - but don't thank me 'til we've solved it!
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Old 11-09-2007, 02:00 AM   Cm's getting tired - Tactics problem? Post #13
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Thanks a lot for the help. I will try a few things out and see how it goes.
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Old 11-09-2007, 02:44 AM   Cm's getting tired - Tactics problem? Post #14
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You're welcome. Let us know how you get on, in this thread if you would - if you've solved it, give the answer for the next poor sod who gets it, and if not we'll have another go at it.
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