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Old 02-09-2008, 06:48 PM   FM2008 too easy to win the league Post #11
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It's the result of last year's "waaaaaah FM's too hard" chorus.
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Old 02-09-2008, 06:53 PM   FM2008 too easy to win the league Post #12
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I dont know anybody who finds this game hard, with a top team like chelsea or man utd anybody can win hte league or challenge pretty close to it, i'm playing a man utd game while im waiting for the update and its stupidly easy, you pick the big players who you've heard of in the positions you know they play, you dont waste your time with any of the tactics (or if you do you set them to the pre approved SI ones, its what i do, although i resest the attacking mentality to team for all but the CBs and GK). in my second season i'm 12 wins from 12 and havent conceeded a goal yet.
what is hard about doing this????

I dont know anybody personally who still plays this, bacause it is too "hard". The threads are full of complainers, some may be idiots but I doubt the majority are.

I may try as you did tactically, maybe that is so simple it is successful for that reason. If so, surely that still highlights an error with the game.

To dispell your theory though, when was the last time someone Posted a super tactic, saying "use the standard tactic from the game". I DONT KNOW OF ANY.
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Old 02-09-2008, 06:57 PM   FM2008 too easy to win the league Post #13
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mitja:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Yalcin:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Mitja:
it's been years since I had really long game, so maybe I'm not person to comment on this. but I must agree with you. it's really weird to win league after league when playing LLM. or CL with portsmouth, such situations should be extremly rare. but that's our opinoum, I believe many will disagree here.

it's all down to AI inteligence. in ME, in transfers in management. and this should be this games prime concern.
Actually winning something should be rare? What's the whole point of actually playing the game then? </BLOCKQUOTE>

I said that's my opinoum.

what's the point of game, whe you win EPL in 2nd season with portsmouth? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea your right. The whole point of the game is to play for as long as you can without winning anything.

It really all depends how good you are. Sometimes it can take 2 or 3 seasons just to win the league with Man U! Your not using the old saving and restarting after a defeat trick are you cause that usually takes alot of the fun out of FM? :p
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Old 02-09-2008, 06:57 PM   FM2008 too easy to win the league Post #14
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Originally posted by tigerhgrrrrrr:
<BLOCKQUOTE>I dont know anybody who finds this game hard, with a top team like chelsea or man utd anybody can win hte league or challenge pretty close to it, i'm playing a man utd game while im waiting for the update and its stupidly easy, you pick the big players who you've heard of in the positions you know they play, you dont waste your time with any of the tactics (or if you do you set them to the pre approved SI ones, its what i do, although i resest the attacking mentality to team for all but the CBs and GK). in my second season i'm 12 wins from 12 and havent conceeded a goal yet.
what is hard about doing this????

I dont know anybody personally who still plays this, bacause it is too "hard". The threads are full of complainers, some may be idiots but I doubt the majority are.

I may try as you did tactically, maybe that is so simple it is successful for that reason. If so, surely that still highlights an error with the game.

To dispell your theory though, when was the last time someone Posted a super tactic, saying "use the standard tactic from the game". I DONT KNOW OF ANY. </BLOCKQUOTE>

you got the point.

also my watching matches experience tells me that AI doesn't use those pre set standard tactics. for me those tactics are weird and useless.
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Old 02-09-2008, 06:59 PM   FM2008 too easy to win the league Post #15
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i'm not advocating using the standard tactic, however without changing the tactics its not amazingly challenging to win the league with a top team.

to dispell you aidea that my argument is flawed, look at how many people win the league numerous times with average teams, and look at how many people are capable of taking a really really bad team to world domination. now tell me 1 manager in real life whos taken a team from the conference to the champions league. yes i know that managers will often as not change teams before they get to this level of success, but there are way too many people getting none top teams to world domination, where is the difficulty in making an average premiership side difficult, how many managers can do it in real life? how many fail?
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Old 02-09-2008, 07:02 PM   FM2008 too easy to win the league Post #16
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Originally posted by RJH10:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Mitja:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Yalcin:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Mitja:
it's been years since I had really long game, so maybe I'm not person to comment on this. but I must agree with you. it's really weird to win league after league when playing LLM. or CL with portsmouth, such situations should be extremly rare. but that's our opinoum, I believe many will disagree here.

it's all down to AI inteligence. in ME, in transfers in management. and this should be this games prime concern.
Actually winning something should be rare? What's the whole point of actually playing the game then? </BLOCKQUOTE>

I said that's my opinoum.

what's the point of game, whe you win EPL in 2nd season with portsmouth? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea your right. The whole point of the game is to play for as long as you can without winning anything.

It really all depends how good you are. Sometimes it can take 2 or 3 seasons just to win the league with Man U! Your not using the old saving and restarting after a defeat trick are you cause that usually takes alot of the fun out of FM? :p </BLOCKQUOTE>


sometimes it takes sir alex ferguson 2-3 years to win the premier league, and he is arguably one of the best managers of all time. in comparison how long has it taken liverpool to win the league in real life? if somebody was trying for 19 years on fm and couldnt do it they'd be crying that its way too dificult, whereas liverpool not be able to win the league is a fiar reflection of reality.

I understand that people will want to play this game and be able to win succesive leagues with their favourite teams without too much difficulty, but what harm is there to be had in making it slightly more realistic in terms of dificulty?
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Old 02-09-2008, 07:04 PM   FM2008 too easy to win the league Post #17
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Quote:
Originally posted by RJH10:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Mitja:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Yalcin:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Mitja:
it's been years since I had really long game, so maybe I'm not person to comment on this. but I must agree with you. it's really weird to win league after league when playing LLM. or CL with portsmouth, such situations should be extremly rare. but that's our opinoum, I believe many will disagree here.

it's all down to AI inteligence. in ME, in transfers in management. and this should be this games prime concern.
Actually winning something should be rare? What's the whole point of actually playing the game then? </BLOCKQUOTE>

I said that's my opinoum.

what's the point of game, whe you win EPL in 2nd season with portsmouth? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea your right. The whole point of the game is to play for as long as you can without winning anything.

It really all depends how good you are. Sometimes it can take 2 or 3 seasons just to win the league with Man U! Your not using the old saving and restarting after a defeat trick are you cause that usually takes alot of the fun out of FM? :p </BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't remember I said anything like that. it's personal prefference. winning leagues in the row it's not a simulation of real life, for me. winning CL with darlington, for example is the proof how poor AI still is, it's not that we are super managers it's more like, AI's bad.

what's sucsess for me it doesn't have to be for you as well.
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Old 02-09-2008, 07:07 PM   FM2008 too easy to win the league Post #18
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Not so easy if you start in the bottom divisions.
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Old 02-09-2008, 07:14 PM   FM2008 too easy to win the league Post #19
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i'm not advocating using the standard tactic, however without changing the tactics its not amazingly challenging to win the league with a top team.

to dispell you aidea that my argument is flawed, look at how many people win the league numerous times with average teams, and look at how many people are capable of taking a really really bad team to world domination. now tell me 1 manager in real life whos taken a team from the conference to the champions league. yes i know that managers will often as not change teams before they get to this level of success, but there are way too many people getting none top teams to world domination, where is the difficulty in making an average premiership side difficult, how many managers can do it in real life? how many fail?
:thup:

I would like to see that doesn't happen. I know this is just agame but also it's suposed to be a simulation. I don't think it's easy to be a manager of real, man u or inter in real life.

on the other hand it should also be impossibile to bring a conference team to PL in 10 years, (without sugger daddy). I'm not sure but don't believe it's happened.
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Old 02-09-2008, 07:31 PM   FM2008 too easy to win the league Post #20
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If you have money you could be the worst manager and just buy all the players that other clubs want. A good example is Chavski.

Without money they were useless. A manager comes along with billions to spend and in his first season he wins the league having spent around £200m
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