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Old 02-09-2008, 10:58 PM   Reputation and how it spoils FM. Post #1
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Can we get some kind of awareness of whats happening to our team now, rather than the way we only have longterm reputation. This particularly applies when you over-perform.

Case in fact is my current Nottm Forest side, tipped as dead certs for relegation. But after 29 games we are 6th and playing well yet we are still not favourites for ANY game, meaning when they did start to play badly I couldnt have a go at them because they were expected to lose due to reputation only working over the long term.

The "correct" way (well in FMs world anyway) was to not be harsh on them even when 0-4 down at home at half-time in order to try and keep morale up.

The thing is you have to do this in FM as morale is king, although irl a rollicking would be in order as your player who have had a season above all expectation should not suffer a massive morale drop or worse get annoyed at you!

So really I should be seeing my seasons form being recognised rather than the game seemingly ignoring this when calculating odds, or the effects a single bad defeat can have on morale.

Maybe this is an area where we need (as we do anyway) better interaction with our players. Id like to maybe have the ability to talk to my team and say or ask them whether they feel they "kickon and secure a place in Europe" etc.

Its absolutely crazy that man-management tends to just be about keeping morale up- meaning that essentially to succeed the natural reactions are not the ones that will tend to work.

After all many of us are "running" multi-million pound teams and not a kindergarten so lets stop seeing these footballers acting like children every time something goes wrong or they get criticised.
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Old 02-10-2008, 12:02 AM   Reputation and how it spoils FM. Post #2
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After all many of us are "running" multi-million pound teams and not a kindergarten so lets stop seeing these footballers acting like children every time something goes wrong or they get criticised.
yea i've seen a similar comment on the Guardian as well. you would have thought these footballer would be acting like adult because they are earning all those money.
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Old 02-10-2008, 05:13 AM   Reputation and how it spoils FM. Post #3
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Good points, George Graham.

The flip side of it is, if a club like Manchester United has fallen into relegation battles, its very difficult to take over and rebuild, because the board still "expects" you to be a Big Four side.

The suggestion I've liked the best about this is splitting reputation into short-term reputation (perhaps, past 12 months?) and long-term reputation (much the same as current).

As for your team-talks thing, yeah, more options needed and I'd definitely like to feel like personalities other than "cheerful and encouraging" had a chance of succeeding: the perfectionist "its never good enough" persona, the "put the fear of god into them" persona, the "professor" persona (minimal emotion shown), and the "gruff, rarely praises you" persona should all be viable strategies, as long as we're consistent. And of course, different player personalities should want different ones.
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